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As usual i was having an argument with my bro this morning but this one was different.
As everyone knows tyranids all do as the hive tyrant commands, and that does what the norn queen commands. So i was thinking, would it be possible to seperate a hive from the norn queen and with enough time and resources 'tame' the hive tyrant to do your every command. I was thinking enough people could tame the hive tyrant but then when you released it back into the hive, would the other 'nids accept it back, would they follow the orders. Imagine, a tyranid and an astartes fighting side by side, what do you think.
Hmmmmm well... i would probaly say yes to gaunts and hormaguants maybe warriors but hive tyrant i dont realy know i mean it would take years of hard,hard,Hard training but ye lol eventauly maybe some might be taimed *lol blue nids for ultramarines *
I'm not completely positive, but I'm pretty sure it'd be impossible.
When Tyranids are out of synapse range, they still retain basic instincts and are still very aggressive. They sometimes continue to follow their last orders, or sometimes fall back and try to get back into synapse range. This implies that if you separate a tyranid (especialy one with synapse capabilities) from the rest of the hive mind, it will either continue to follow its last orders (read: Kill you) or try to escape and find its hive fleet. More importantly, tyranids aren't set up to "learn". They have one specific purpose upon creation, and that is imprinted into their minds. It'd be like trying to teach an ant to roll over.
So even if it was separated from its fleet, had no orders, and was not aggressive, it wouldn't listen to you. Its basic instincts tell it that you are food. I could be wrong, but this is how I see it.
As for "releasing it back to its hive", not gonna happen. The second it picks up a synapse signal, it follows orders and attacks you. No matter how much a robot likes you, it can't hold back if its program says "kill him". Tyranids are just like that.
The closest I've seen to this was an uber-kewl model a guy made featuring a techpriest riding (or was it leading? I'm not sure) a carnifex, holding a controller with a series of wires leading up to the thing's head. The argument was that the admech captured the beast, then "lobotomized" it or something, giving them the ability to take control. Even that stretched the bounds of accepted, official fluff to the extreme.
There have been many, many threads in many, many forums discussing how the Tyranids work as a species and whether it would ever be possible to make them subservient or somehow make them behave differently than the killing machines that they are. The verdict in pretty much all of them that I've read is "no." The hive mind is an extraordinarily powerful influence, and turning the beasts away from that is pretty much impossible. Absent the hive mind, they will follow the last "order" they got, usually something that, when combined with humans, becomes... messy.
Even if you DO manage to isolate one or more nids from the hive mind in a non-combat situation (i.e., spiriting a group of them away while they slept), they still have hunter-killer instincts. Most of their decisions are based on those instincts, and there's no evidence of them ever developing beyond that. Hence, teaching them to follow orders of any kind, be it "kill the chaos scum" or "put on a top hat and do a dance for us" would really not be possible. It'd be like jumping in the ocean with a great white shark to teach it to do tricks, all the while having a side of beef strapped to you. Good luck. Dibs on your chair.
There's also the other issue of what happens when the hive fleet DOES pass within synapse range? I can assure you once your new not-so-cuddly pets get a whiff of that all bets are off.
Mm I wouldn't rule out the possibility that you could control them to an extent (assuming you were outside of the Hives' influence), but I'd imagine the moment they're back within reach of the Hive's synaptic field, it would revert instantly back under the Hive's control, unless your psychic powers were prodigious enough to block out the Queen's commands.
On the other hand, I recall in Storm of Iron, the Iron Warriors managed to tow a hive ship into the Eye of Terror, and injected it with the Obliterator techno virus to be used as a Titan Legion transport. So.. perhaps Chaos is the key?
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As the above LO'ers have said...
But you also need to take into account the Imperiums actions against persons trying this kind of thing.
It's one thing to use a Tyranid Bio-construct to lure more of their kind into a trap, but its another completely to try and Tame such a Species...
The Imperium wouldn't allow it. Fair enough you might get Rogue =][= trying this kinda thing but we all know what happens to individuals like them anyway (besides being called a Bad-guy and/or messily mutilated )
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What if it was an Ordo Xenos project. They always do crap with aliens that the imperium would class as heretical. And i mean tyranids for SM not the filthy chaos scum. But please just imagine it was possible, imagine how many more battles the imperium would win with some 'nids on there side.
Why is this in the Space Marine section and not the fluff section?
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Even if it were physically possible (which it may or may not be, for the purposes of this post I'll assume it is), space marines would not ally with the tyranids.
"The blasphemy of the tyranids is such that only one solution is acceptable: Extermination"
Space marines will pretty much fight fanatically in order to exterminate xenos, even when it's not the smartest decision available.
Extremist inquisitors might try it though.
You know, the kind who use demons