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    Doin some drugs: Who can take Chem-inhalers?

    As the title says, who can take Chem-inhalers? It don't say anything about guard infantry.


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    What does it say, then? Whatever it says, that's who can take it. If it says "any unit may..." then there you go - any unit. Guard Infantry units can be viewed like a limitation; only those specific units may take certain doctrines. If that limitation, or another, isn't around then it's feasible to assume that anyone can take it.

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    It says nothing at all about who can take it, only a cost per unit.

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    then couldint a 50 man conscript squad take it for only the 1 cost, or would you have to pay the cost for every 10 men in the 50 man squad?
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    From how i read it its each one.

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    As for the doctrine it is stated in the blurb about special equipment swho has to take it, the guard infantry in this sense is a restriction like pointed out above. see the last paragraph before the box on page 57 (second line is what you want).

    It is a conscript platoon not a conscript squad. This is why people get confused. Misuse fo the terminology. Each squad in the platoon has to take it (so once for every ten men).

    The only real difference between this and a normal platoon is that the normal platoon can split it's squads up.

    Hope that helps

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    Why for would someone pay for conscript chems when they could attach a commisar? By the way good rulespost rep
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commisarlestat View Post
    As for the doctrine it is stated in the blurb about special equipment swho has to take it, the guard infantry in this sense is a restriction like pointed out above. see the last paragraph before the box on page 57 (second line is what you want).

    It is a conscript platoon not a conscript squad. This is why people get confused. Misuse fo the terminology. Each squad in the platoon has to take it (so once for every ten men).

    The only real difference between this and a normal platoon is that the normal platoon can split it's squads up.

    Hope that helps

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    I'd disagree...

    The Chem-Inhalers says XXpts for each unit.

    Conscript Platoons say each platoon functions as a single unit... the squads are just there for limiting special + heavy weapons.

    So, I'd say it's just XX pts for the Conscript platoon of 20-50 guys, not XXpts per 10 guys.
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    Again it's a terminology thing and GW arent consistent. Each squad has to take it elsewhere in the codex so Conscripts should not be different. Also if you read what it says they define guard infantry unit as then you see it is the squads. In effect doctrines are applied in exactly the same way as equipment therefore equipment rules should be used.

    ie. when the codex explains what they mean by unit for the purposes of doctrines (unit is synonymous with squad) then this should be applied to that rule as it is the closest thing we have.

    I understand by the letter this could be interpreted a different way but if you look at the rules throughout the whole codex it doesnt make sense for one cost to be paid for all 20-50 men. With a variable cost they would probably have though of a variable price (considering you can get between 20-50 its a big leap)

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    PS the FAQ'd hardened fighters terms the unit as a squad again adding weight to the squad being a unit.

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    The Hardened Fighters is obviously referring to Infantry Platoons, as Conscript Platoons are not Guard Infantry, so cannot take Hardened Fighters.

    Similarly, as Conscript Platoons are not Guard Infantry, they are not referred to at all in the Guard Infantry description...

    I would agree that GW are not consistent with their definitions of Squad and Unit, therefore we must take each entry in the Codex alone, to try and see what is meant by squad, and what is meant bu unit.

    It says that squad organisation is only used for limitations on special and heavy weapons, otherwise each platoon is a unit.

    So, a Conscript Platoon is one unit... Unless you'd also argue 50 Conscripts count as 5 KPs?
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