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Just looking through my codex and seeing some interesting things. With Sisters of Battle in the middle, it seems that Celestians and Donions are both on opposite ends of the spectrum. While Celestians hard harder hitting in CC, they can not take nearly as many assault weapons as Dominions. With sisters and their ranks almost allways wanting to be in rapid fire range, it is only a matter of time until they do in fact get assaulted. I know that there are many many different lists out there and each person has their own reasons for fielding one over the other. Why do you choose Celestians over Dominions or vise versa?
from a modeling stand point. do you choose to paint your Celestians, Doninions, or retrobuters differently than your SoBs?
Last edited by ZMB; December 18th, 2008 at 01:32.
I've been liking the Celestians in the games I've been playing. Dropping 5 in an immolator with 2 meltas is pretty cheap and packs a punch versus horde and will also drop a tank before it goes down. Weapons in Dominion squads are kind of prohibitively priced.
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I take neither dominions nor celetians, as regular sister squads can get the job done just as well. In 4th edition I took dominions, but now since they no longer score and are essentially the same thing I don't bother anymore. Played properly a sisters army will only rarely get assaulted, so the added cost of celestians is just wasted, and even with the increased ability to hit they are little more than just a speed bump in CC.
Moral of the story, just take regular sisters in rhinos rather than dominions or celestians. It is the unfortunate truth, as it would look cool to have fancy gold edging on the weapons and armor of celestians and some freehanding on their tabbards too. I would like to see them get artificer armor or something when they redo the book to give them a more distinct role from the other sister squads, as they just aren't worth the extra points.
After building a bunch of boxes of SoB's I have a bunch of SoB's with stormbolters left over. Iwas thinking of converting them to melta's. Either thst or using them in a Dominion squad.
Although frozen core made some valid points one thing he overlooked is that celestians used as retinue benfeit the cannones greatly
1) she is no longer an idpendent character
2) the bodies help your cannoness survive
3) add 1 more faith point to your army
4) can be used as a counter attacking unit to an alreday engaged unit
As far as close combat goes one should avoid it like the plague t3 and st3 is a liabilty just ask an Eldar player.
As far as storm bolters go they are the bastard step child of special weapons. I only run the 2 I have because my Cannones and her body guard baby sits my Guard and react to holes in the line.
Last edited by justiceisrelative; December 18th, 2008 at 03:16.
Yeah, I am leaning towards the celests right now as a retinue. You get less flamers which is what I equip, but can get a heavy one which is nice. and they are always faithful so no need worry about losing the vet to be able to use faith points. Drawback there is no ability to 'kenny' your vet. If you do get assaulted yes t3 sucks, but as a retinue, you can have 2x evis or a blessed and evisc both hitting on 3s, a very nice prospect, unfortunately not against a lot of the models where it counts MCs etc.
Neither. The change to scoring units in 5E nerfs the crap out of both choices. They just don't do anything so much more than regular sisters to make it worth the loss of scoring status. Maybe just maybe if Celestians had kept Preferred Enemy, they'd have something going. But that got nerfed too. (Don't perceive this as overall griping, 5E has been awesome for sister armies, but it does diminish the desirability of those two units.)
Celestians as a retinue can have some value in making the Canoness an upgrade char, but keep it small.
What all do you do with the models in the SoBs boxed set that give one with a storm bolter. Convert, use as is, use as a melta? Don't use at all?
I would sayn in the future don'y buy the box. If you run retributers thaen use one as a sister superior and if not well maybe they could be accolyte for a shooty inq retinue.
Seraphim are a much better "retinue" than celestians. There isn't much that can stand against the power and speed of a jump pack cannoness with her seraphim sisters.