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Could you use storm troopers as an ally troop and get the same effect as grenaders?
shrug, you could take allied Witchhunters or Daemonhunters and get Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, the same as grenadiers but different wargear options and transport options include a rhino... or a forgeworld repressor (such a neat rhino variant).
You could but they don't come with free krak grenades, pay more points for grenade launchers, sergeant upgrade and have a more expensive armoury.
On the other hand they save you a doctrine point, can take a rhino or chimera (chimera has 2 fire points instead of 1 and the lasguns), have cheaper flamers, and they save you a doctrine point.
It's personal preferance really.
IG Best Gen 1st overall of 10 DE 4th overall of 6
Eldar 3rd Overall/Best General of 26--2nd Overall/Best General of 7--1st Overall/Best General of 11
=][= Stormies are generally better to take than Grenadiers imo. If only for the fact that they can take Rhinos which (imho) is a better *transport* and allows from drive by shootings (can fire both special weapons from the Rhino and not be open topped). a 5-6 man squad with 2 Meltaguns, Plasmaguns or Flamers in a Rhino can be effective.
And if you really feel crazy you can give the Sgt a Thunder Hammer lol
Yea, it comes down to preference really. I remember being confused when they came out with those troops and said that the points difference was because the Inq troopers were so much better. And I was like, "...Wait, what?! It IS the exact same thing! I thought points paid for wargear was what was supposed to balance options?!"
The Rhino is a cheaper transport and is actually closer to being worth it's points, but there have been many times when the front armor of the Chimera has saved me from foot slogging it all the way to the objective. Not to mention the added fire support of the main weapons once I get there. I just wish I had more options for the turret. I would love to mount an autocannon up there without dipping into gray areas of the rules.
When we get our new codex, I have a feeling Chimeras are going to make a strong comeback 55points!
Here's hoping. I also hope GW decide to add the option of an autocannon into the codex entry.
Anyway, Inquisitorial stormtroopers are a good addition that save you a few doctrine points. Or you could go for a full stormtrooper army and have 8 squads (3 in elites, 3 grenadiers and 2 inquisitorial) plus the usual selection of Leman Russes, Sentinels, Hellhounds et al.
IIRC from the FW update pdf, the 55pt chimera also could be upgraded to TL HB or Autocannon
Stormies are overpriced. Using a lot of them is playing at a disadvantage, you are better off making a WH SoB army. But, stormies do look cool Here is hoping that the new rules for them are much better (the new models look pretty cool).
Really hope we get Stormies with S4 shotguns!
Wow i am a fan of that look!!