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I am looking at starting a Hawk Lords SM army but I am unsure what troops/vehicles I should get and if Hawk Lords are a good choice for a first army ?
I am a complete noob to the hobby and I want to make sure I choose the right starting point with both chapter choice and troops/vehicles and realistically what I need to buy to start say a 500 or 1000 point army.
Any help or direction would be gratefully appreciated.
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I hope you enjoy your stay, please be sure to famliarise yourself with the rules (found in a link in my signature).
Although you're right to post in the introductions forum, as you're looking for help with your Hawk Lords, I'm going to move your post over to the home of the Emperor's finest (the SM forum) where you'll be able to get more specific help.
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
Hawk Lords are a cool start, a chapter that I don't see very often with a nice color scheme, good pick there.
What I'd recommend first is picking up a rulebook and Codex. If you've got a way to get rid of the Orks, Assault on Black Reach is a great start. It's got the makings of a good 500 point marine list, the rulebook, templates, dice, and even some Orks for target practice
I will take a look at the Assault on Black Reach set.
I believe the men in the set are more assembled than in the separate sets, does this cause a problem ?
Also are the Hawk Lords a good choice as a tactical choice or would I be better going with another chapter.
Again thanks for the help
The Black Reach models are snap fits, but they blend in just fine with normal models no problem. The basic marines and Captain would be difficult to convert, but the Terminator and Dreadnought weapons are easily swapped out with other kits (be advised that the Black Reach Dread's arm weapon socket is smaller than the normal Dread).
Hawk Lords are no different from any other chapter, they all use the same Codex so their tactical viability is entirely up to you.
Aye, under normal circumstances, the Hawk Lords will be the same as any other Marine chapter. (Well, with the exception of the chapters with their own codeci, of course.)
The HLs are known for being skilled pilots of Thunderhawk Gunships. These do not appear in regular 40K, regrettably, but do make an appearance in the Apocolaypse version of the game. Once you're more settled in, have an army ready to go, and are interested in that kind of thing, it'd be time to look into that. (Plus, hopefully, by then there'll be a plastic version instead of the $1200 resin mold thats out now.)
But yes, ABoR is a good start - for the price you pay, you get more than 4x the stand-alone cost in models, plus a rulebook. It'll take care of your mandatory troops choices; after that, you can decide how you'd like to build your army from what's listed in the codex.
Hawk Lords can be as tactically flexible as any other codex chapter. I also applaud you on your choice. I actually love the name "Hawk Lords!" I also like the color scheme.
After getting the Assault on Black Reach set (a "must purchase" for a new player IMHO), you will need at least one more squad of tactical marines. Your minimum choices for a game include a HQ and black reach provides an excellent Captain, and two troops. Black reach provides a tactical squad and you should get another.
Get Black Reach and a Space Marine Codex and get playing!!
Once a Marine, always a Marine.
I can't wait to start playing and very pleased that my money has gone on the right things.
Thanks again and I am sure there will be many more questions !!!
advice from someone who truly loves the visual aspect of 40k:
google hawk lords. check them out. read about them. see if they fit what you "feel" is right about you, and how you see yourself enjoying 40k.
then go to coolminiornot.com, do a search for hawk lords, and see if they look "right" to you. as you progress in the hobby, you may find that you want to give another chapter a try, or maybe try to create your own, as you grow more comfortable in the hobby.
that is the beauty of 40k, for me. it encompasses an entire galaxy, so the possibilities are, for all intents and purposes, limitless.
never forget, this is a game, and if you are not having fun....... change directions! find your fun, and chase it with reckless abandon.