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It is so cheesy that I have to change the fiber content in my diet
So...as soon as I get my tax return I will be building up a IG army. I am shooting for around 2000 pts with lots and lots of ground pounding infantry. I may go the Death Korps route or the tallarn route as both are super cool looking. My question is do you think having all sorts of plasma is on the cheezy side of things? I love plasma for it's versatility and rapid fire (which guard needs with a BS of 3). Many people frown apon using so much plasma and I don't want to marked as some crazy power-gammer.
I refuse to post in your poll because the answers don't fit what I think. If you support your choice in weapons with fluff and play that way because it fits your theme then it's not cheesy. If you are playing plasma because you just want to win and don't give a carp about theme or fluff, then yes, you're a cheesey headed cheese monster from munster.
EDIT: I once played against an Eldar player who wanted to field 5 wraith lords in a 1500 pt game. My friends all shouted about how lame it was, but I played the guy anyway. He supported his choice with a theme. He clearly had thought this whole thing out and was playing that way because he wanted to represent a particular type of force.
I beat the pants off of him, but that's besides the point. Even though his army was clearly against the rules, it was still not cheesy by my standards.
Last edited by RexTalon; February 3rd, 2009 at 03:05.
Will someone explain to me how using mass plasma guns is consider cheese.
*As I'm sick of folks trying to bring down their opponent's rather than playing better, this will be a more strongly worded post than is my norm*
For most folks, crying cheese means they want you to tune down your build and skill level to a point where they can compete with you using their pathetic build. These are the same folks who think a strong backstory or cool model should win the game.
For now, let's pretend we are talking about the other 5% of players who cry cheese.
Plasma <> cheese. Especially in a Guard army. You CAN'T make a cheesy guard army. Go ahead, make the most powerful build you can. It will still require skill to win against even a balanced army from an A-list Codex.
Now for the best part... Who would cry cheese about plasma? MEQ players. That's it. So some player who thinks their 3+ save should let them be foolish with their squads runs into a plasma squad and loses 3-4 models and cries cheese.
Dear me, a river of tears is flooding my office.
RecklessFable's Journey to Mediocrity (Painting an IG army)
I've been addicted to World of Tanks lately and neglecting my IG... But it is so... much... fun!
I hear what you guys are saying...It is hard to talk common sence into people who are not willing to listen. It reminds me of the SF2 days when I get people in the corner and sweep them for days. I say to them...learn how to block low, but their response will allways be..."Thats cheep". People just end up getting mad, and over what? A game. I would rather people not get all sorts of butt-hurt, but you are right. 3+'s are the only ones crying over their pretty power armour.
Grenadiers with plasmas are the best! My troops consists of stormies w/2plasmas + 1 plasma pistol. Then my command squad has 4 plasma guns + 1 PP + sharpshooters doctrine. I can almost take out an entire squad of terminators if they get within my rapid fire range! Cheese?....please! Why do they cry? Cuz they die like flies, and that's no lie!
And as to original post, it can be considered cheese if one looks at the fluff behind the game. Plasma weaponry is considered archaic and rare so to field them in every slot possible could be considered cheesy. Possible ways around this: fluff for your army explaining why they have a plasma weapon in every squad. If fluff is not involved, i see it ask kinda boring but not necessarily cheesy
Last edited by malbur; February 3rd, 2009 at 05:27.
I dont know if it could be considered cheese with a bs3, when all armies have access to a similar weapons with higher bs.
I voted yes because I see any kind of spam as being cheese, regardless of whether or not it's effective. Have some variety.
Also it looks stupid if your company has an entire month of production on Ryza in their stockpile.
Is massed Lasgun fire cheesy to you then? : P