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OK so the fluff side of the point
The codex states that: Regiments are generally all trained in one method of combat / role. Such as
Infantry Regiment: Use mainly infantry supported by a small selection of fighting and transport vehicles
Drop Troop Regiment: Use no tanks, etc as cant be dropped
A regiment will consist of 2-20+ Companies,
A company is 2-6 Platoons
So we have our Regiment. For example
Company Command HQ (Command Platoon our 1 HQ Choice)
1st Platoon: - 25-55 Men
2nd Platoon: - 25-55 Men
3rd Platoon: - 25-55 Men
4th Platoon: - 25-55 Men
5th Platoon: - 25-55 Men
6th Platoon: - 25-55 Men
B Coy, C Coy Etc would all be duplicates of these.
Force Organisation Chart Side
We get 2 HQ choices, only 1 which we can utilise as we only get 1 Command platoon and other options bar characots dont take up HQ slots.
We get 6 Troops choices all of the platoon size or smaller.
Questions / Points of discussion
1: This means our HQ spot becomes our Campany Commander and we are effectivly taking a single company into battle does anyone find this abit daunting... i mean this is 1 small company you dont get to take your regiments leader into battle while still keeping your force fluffily organised on the battlefield.
2: If we want to take a small drop troop force, and keep the rest as a more static line its hard to fit in with the fluff and what the FOC allow. If we were to field these 2 next to each other you would see a company of normal infantry making up your line then a different company most likely from another regiment making up the drop troops. But we simply cant field multiple companies (standard fluff sized companies) within the given point cost and it would be very rare for part of 1 company to be out unless on a small patrol and this wouldnt give them a reason to be out with a full supply of support tanks and troops from other regiments.
3: Where do vehicles (tanks mainly) fit into infantry squads, do they form an armoured company of their own within the regiment then get attached accordingly or do they become part of that company so a tank would carry A coy's symbols etc.
Thanks for any help, its all in aid of getting my fluff write and my regiment /company / platoon markings and badges correct. Minor details count for me
Wow, im surprised there have been no posts on this yet...
This is a great discussion to have.
1) I would have no problem with this, in fact, i try to make my armies as fluffy as possible, so i dont use many HSO's or supped-up commanders. i dont think i could fit 335 men into my army though (thats the head count for a full size company) considering i have only 120 infantry
2) Yes, they would need to be a different company if you wanted to keep it fluffy, but, you could have your static gun line not be a full company. Think, why do they need drop assistance in the first place. they must be being overrun or are running out of supplies, ect. A small holding force needs support, so some drop troops from a supporting regiment are sent to save them.
3) Armored Units are commonally split up into squadrons and lent to Infantry units, so its completely fluffy to have a tank or 2 (or 3 lol) in a Guard infantry force.
107th Regiment, 5th Armored Battle Group- 5500ptsFor someone to deal as much damage as you did, the Emperor must surely be at your side. - MaxDv
Been doing some more reading on this myself and answered a few of my own questions by looking at other sources.
What i realised is Regiments are not normally kept fully together, for example The 8th Cadian. Companies are stationed all around cadia in various points and some are sent off to assist elseware. This made me realise that i need to build companies from various regiments. and bring them more into a battleforce or a division of some kind.
So in an area i would say have 2 Companies of Shock Troops, a company from a Mechanised Regiment and some tanks from an Armoured Regiment. and these would form a Battlegroup or Brigade with a specific task.
I think its a great shout to keep my Command Platton as a senior officer not a HSO. Atleast this is how im starting. once hes earned some heroic victories in my eyes i might uprade him. This company commander would then have to take charge of the battleforce. And any platoon of infantry from another company would come under his command for the time being.
I think im going to put a few regiments together, this also gives me the great option of having some for example a force from one place such as cadian but forming other regiments such as elysians in there as my drop troops supporting regiments in there area. Would supply abit more variation in my force.
Anything else that people do to keep things fluffy on the battlefield?
I did the same thing when I played IG, and I got so much fun out of using them, because they felt like a true army.
What will you be doing about squad markings? Will you copy military markings, like the marines, or invent your own insignia?
I couldn't think of anything funny, smart, or witty to say, so I said this.
Have a look at this thread about my guard.
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...-division.html (Fluff for my guard division)
I basically based my regiments on various historical and 40k precedents. For example the tanks are number in a similar way to german AFV's of the second war. The individual regiments are based on various things for example I have the HAssnians based aorund the RAF regimet as they were supposed to be attachd to protect airfields etc. The main regimnets are Napoleonic inspired in their construction.
Basically having the force like this means that I can draw units formt he different regiments depending on what size battle or campaign Im fighting. I coudl take some untis formteh 7th comitatense second company as my gunline (say a platoon or two) these could then be supported by tanks formthe 4th solentian armour and also the Istrian PDF or the mechanised elements of the 7th comitatense first company or black company.
Basically I wrote the organisational fluff and some background so my armies are chosen from that it means I can build fluffy yet effective armies.
As for company and platoon markings I was simply able to pick a random unit and go well these guys are the 2nd squad of 3rd platoon from one of my regiments, markings were then done from the Napoleonic system on infantry with company colours and soem with platoon numbers etc.
Hope that helps
I keeps it real! er...fluffy. Instead of making my stats fluffilicious, I make my models Johnny Fluff-n-Stuff. It leads to victories with modeling and victories on the field.
"Courage without the presence of fear is like a pistol without bullets. Meaningless." Colonel Igor Massif, 6777th Severite Rifles M40