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Say my Callidus uses her Neural Shredder on a mob of 30 ork boyz (or any orks for that matter). Do I use their natural LD or the Mob Rule collective LD? I'm under the impression it should be their natural LD.
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Done, and happy to help.
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gauss is right, you use the predominant LD.
you're basically using the Ld stat as the Toughness stat in this instance.
with Toughness, you take the Str of the weapon vs the predominant Toughness.
same with Ld and the Neural shredder.
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I let my opponent choose sometimes : majority or individual models (i prefer the latter as it makes more sense to me personally and i roll individually for each model)
i stress that they are simply replacing one stat (toughness) with another (Ld) from the models individual entry in their codex... so no "my leader gives them all..." nonsense.
One really cool, maybe even cheap tactic with the shredder besides always being able to conjure a bowl of shreddies by your side.... Is that it targets INDIVIDUAL LD values. So it is a good weapon for leader hunting.
If their leader has LD 7 and the rest of the squad has LD 6, then they get to choose what LD 6 guys die, but YOU get to roll separate dice for that LD 7 model. Now, typically this isn't amazing cause most leaders LD value is much higher then 7... But it is just a shining example of yet another reason the Callidus Assassin has some cool moral depleting or gut wrenching psychological effects on the enemy. (and yah, there was a bit of pun intended there!)
Hope this helps,
The Orks Mob Rule states that the models' normal LD value is replaced with the number of Orks in the mob. So until you drop the size of the Mob unit down to at least 11, the Neural Shredder can't even hurt them.
But in general, you just treat a unit's LD value as if it was Toughness. So you inflict wounds based on the average LD in the unit (not the highest, not what a special piece of wargear or model would grant), and if you're lucky enough to be facing LD 4 units, you can even inflict Instant Death upon them as the NS has a Strength value of 8.
ninjabackhand: point and click, again, really? even after i give you an military term "shock tactic" you still call it point and click.
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