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hi there had a word with store manager
there are a lot of info so can only put so much down ata time
the 1 kill point per platoon is true but not what you may have thought
you can have a 55 man platoon for 1 kill point but it counts as 1 unit lol
( same set up as 5 units so it would have 5 heavys 5 special weapont and sutch but they would have to move shoot and so on as one unit)
or you can have 5 10 man units for 5 kill ponts or 20 and 30 for 2 points if you can sea wear it is going
platoons can have a comissar in makes them stubbern with leadership 9
basic gaurds still same stats as last codex ? did not get to see points cost
vets are troop choice again no cost
stormys have to have 1 of 3 upgrades one of them lets them rerole deepstrike a must for the val if it goes full speed
orders are not realy like docterine but are looking cool the units they are used on have to pass a ld test using ther own ld ( see ware have comissars come in)
one of then gives you an extra shot to lasguns so 2 shots at 24 or 3 shots at 12 but can only use it if squad has not moved (remember can have up to 55 in 1 squad )
there is a lot more still trying toget it straght in my head
got see a valc there are two types in the codex normal and one with 3 twinlinked lascanons but they dont come in the box so mod or forge world when they doone
one more of the orders allow a unit to rerole hit dice but the units have to be heavy and the enimy have to be monsters or high armour tanks i think it was called take them down ??
the valkyrie has 2 hellstrike missiles single use range 72 strenth 8 ap 3 ordnance 1 no blast
and has or can have heavy bolters like sponcers
carrys 12 men
Word is that Valks are not dedicated transports, and therefore can be used to transport any unit that can fit inside (pretty much any infantry besides Ogryns).
Although it has not been confirmed, word is that they are true squads (must remain in 4" coherency).
Well, coherency is the least of my worries. It's the damned "all models in a squadron must fire at the same target" CRAP (yes I am not a fan of squadrons).
The pure overkill of having to fire all 3 vendettas (thats 9 twinlinked lascannons) or 3 earthshakers/battlecannons at the same target......
Yes its optional to have more than 3 heavy support and all that, but its one of the big "new" points of the codex, allowing guard to field more armoured vehicles than ever, well whats the point when you pay through the nose for the tanks, that then have to act using the squadron rules?
In my opinion, squadron rules are made for smaller things, sentinels, vypers, killa kans and so on, not main battletanks, aircraft and artillery.
Sigh.. I guess I will maintain hope until I get the codex and read about them for myself.
i dint get to see everythinkhe only showedme parts
no not just for stormies asked about ogryns hesaid cant tell you that but it carrys 12 hint hint
justanother thing about tanks in squads yes the do die on glance hit if imoble on damage table but we get extra armour for free now
also in platoons are ware heavy teams go now can have 5 teams in each platoon
Are tanks taken as squadrons as well?
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Last edited by Beardy_Wierdy; March 22nd, 2009 at 17:22.
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tanks are in groups but dont know if they act as a single unit but every time he said about tanks it was put unit hear use this unit like that but for independent target i not sure sorry
can only say what i have seen or been told
what i looked data was a full codex not just data sheet or copy
have not put every thing down i read because i am unsure if i se a unit for this or a unit for that remember it right dam i was to busy with the valkyrie models but dam they are nice models the mainbody of the valkyrie is basically the same size as a rino body without tracks if you put it on the game table takes up about the same space as a baneblade lol and the kit cost will be £35
I don't like the iea of having a plat as one big moving and shooting unit, although the firepower will be amazing giving the lasguns shooting one more shot than allowed. I think thats a bit crap. Although, splitting upt he squads is quite nifty to 20/30 or what not. Eh, stil dont like squads of vehicles, I think they should act independantly.