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I was thinking about regiments and got to thinking... how are regimental numbers actual assigned.
Do they get listed literally from 1 onwards such as
1st Infantry Regiment
2nd Infantry Regiment
3rd Armoured Regiment
4th Recon Regiment
5th Infantry Regiment
1st Infantry Regiment.......1st Armoured Regiment........1st Recon Regiment
2nd Infantry Regiment......2nd Armoured Regiment.......2nd Recon Regiment
3rd Infantry Regiment.......3rd Armoured Regiment........3rd Recon Regiment
4th Infantry Regiment
5th Infantry Regiment
Also i wondered, once a Regiment gets destroyed do they just disapear or is the regiment fully recruited again out of nothing?
Last edited by Mercian; March 24th, 2009 at 16:32.
As to your question, Regiments are often named after the planet they come from, let's say... Zemaland! Then, a number to indicate which regiment it is... The Zemaland 23th would be a suitable regiment name. Sometimes the regiment is divided into divisions, all with their own task, So the Zemaland 23th Regiment - 4th Mechanized Division.
Buuuuut, there are also fully mechanized or armour regiments!
So the 23th Zemaland Armoured Regiment would be possible too.
I can only suggest you make up something you like, perhaps by selecting an armed force you like (The US army, the British Army, an army from the Napoleonic wars) looking up how they organize things and take something from that. It's what i usually do!
Version 1, from what i'd assume from the fluff.
Historically, (referring to WWII here) US forces were numbered 1,2,3,4,5,6 etc and their serial numbers just went up once each time. They applied this to the armies, for example 1st, 2nd etc, although some were "decended" from old armies/formations, using their numbers (cavalry used to be on horses, then went to armour, and now helicopters) and some destroyed armies/formations numbers were never re-assigned.
- I expect some well informed american to correct me here on something, i'm no expert.
I beleive the Cadians use the 1,2,3,4 numbering (can't remember where it refers to that, but i'm pretty sure it is.)
The UK and german forces however didn't have serials that ran in batches, and didn't have armies / formations that always tallied up on a list - this was often used as a ruse, as you don't want the other side to know what you've got.
Dagnation Zemaphore! Beaten to it by my slow typing.
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As has been said it all depends on the regiments home planet.
Personally I divide mine up by type so PDF have no number as they arent technically a regiment so for example I have the Istrian PDF. (named after the region they cover)
Next I have line regiments (comitatenses Im using the 7th one)
Elite infantry named after the home planet (eg. 3rd Solentian)
Armour named after the home system (eg. 4th Solentian armour)
2nd line infantry are the liminatii again number consecutively.
I have then gone a little odd and decide to differentiate each type into different things so the 3rd Solentian is technically the 3rd Solentian rifles. (then you can have light and heavy types etc)
All I did was go to some fluff and crib their systems,
I use a mainly napoleonic base for numbering (the cardwell system)
then I tweaked it with Byzantine stuff.
I'd recommend have a browse through the current units in different armies. The British army has gone all wierd because some fool decided to get rid of a load of regiments and amalgamate others meaning names changed. It gives a nice veteran feel to a guard planet if certain numbers in the system arent used as they have been destroyed or are missing but no-one wants to replace them or the number is unlucky etc etc.
Hope that helps
What im asking for is im picking my regiments name and ive got my backstory and its a fairly new and small system so isnt producing that many regiments.
I dont wanna name it say the 37th if there havnt been that many made as its so new but i like your idea of the UK and Germans where the regiments are named not numbered and i like the divisions within the regiment.
You could then give every division another name. I see several ways of doing this:
1. Catachan like
2. Or perhaps based on the place they came from or a honor name?
-Emperors Honor division
Or the 3th, a combination:
-3rd Heavy Rifles "The Emperor's Own"
-25th Mechanized "The Blue Riders"
Last edited by Zema; March 24th, 2009 at 18:35.
This is the FOC chart for my army, I run an Army group because I have so much stiff that I switch in and out for fun.
1st Endra Shock Army
--1st Endra's Mechanized Division
--7th Endra's Armored Division
--66th Merkovan Artillery Division
----404th Cadian Scout Company
The way they are actually assigned in reality varies over the years, the US rarely creates new unit designations, the big trend there is to merge or redesignate units on the battalion level.
But basically it all works like this according to the standard Ap66-a NATO designations:
The US no longer has any Artillery or Engineer Divisions, they were all broken down into Battalions to facilitate the new 'plug and play' Division force organization system which is supposed to allow for each division to be administratively identical and allow for the quick swapping out of battalions and better management of forces since the US mil is fairly small these days.
* Some European countries use the Army designation whenever they group multiple Divisions instead of the Corps designation.
US Divisions are typically double the size (10,000 - 20,000 men) of their European counterparts (6,000 - 10,000 men).
** The US does not have any single purpose Bridges (example there is no 1st Infantry Brigade as Brigade is pretty much only an administrative term), Brigades are formed as ad hoc Task Forces consisting of multiple Battalions working together and even with elements of other forces entirely, example MEF's (marine expeditionary forces) are more or less Brigades.
*** The US got rid of official Regimental structure int the 50's, although some units are still called Xth X Regiment, they are in fact Battalions.
Edit: I can imagine that in the 40k universe the standard tithe for Imperial Guard Foundings would be about the size of a single Division for a small tithe, with a Medium tithe being about 2-5 Divisions and a large tithe being about a whole Corps/Army.
Although I would think that planets with a higher degree of technology or technological access would create multiple specialist Regiments, or Divisions (ex Mechanized, Armored, Artillery, Expeditionary (Scout), Support Divisions) instead of just a whole Army of Gunners/infantry Divisions.
Last edited by Tronics; March 24th, 2009 at 19:51.