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Having read the new codex back to back, I recalled something I read in Way of Saim Hann.
I would say the utility value outweighs the firepower part. No doubt everyone one will shoot at it since it looks so menacing. Might as well buy the default version with no upgrades and just win the game the Saim-Hann way!
- Last turn contesting unit. Something about mounting a scoring unit in a fast skimmer and contesting points by moving flat out(with the 4+ save and all).
- Battlefield disruption. Something about out flanking and tank shocking multiple units with the 24" move. Someone is bound to fail their leadership, and it is also extremely unlikely to stop a tank shock(free extra armor for Valkyries). So you might take out 1 or 2 models here and there.
- And also another article about sisters of battle Immolators tank shocking enemies and forcing them to bunch up. Making them sweet targets for multiple flamer units. Like the new veterans with Heavy flamer and 2 normal flamers. BBQ galore.
Any other cool ideas?
"Hard pounding, gentlemen: but we shall see who can pound the longest."
Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington
Come on via outflank with a unit of allied GK terminators, this has been said already so don't credit me with this tactic.
IG Best Gen 1st overall of 10 DE 4th overall of 6
Eldar 3rd Overall/Best General of 26--2nd Overall/Best General of 7--1st Overall/Best General of 11
If you're just going to use them for transport then why not take Chimeras for half the cost? (I know they can move flat-out, but I'll cover that later). I think Valykries have some awesome weapon options that we should try and take advantage of. I really want to use my Valykries to transport a squad safely and then stick around for the fight. However, my concern is that because they look so menacing, are hanging from the ceiling, and have armor made of paper they'll be smoked out of the sky turn 2.
Now, Flat-Out gives us some measure of survivability, but it's still a 4+ cover save and 3 out of the 6 damage results either destroy, or render useless, our fast transport (We don't have nifty Eldar upgrades). And Grave-chute insertion is, IMO, wayyyy too risky to even consider. Plus, when you move flat-out you're not firing weapons, which I really badly want to do.
So, what can we do to keep them alive long enough to add some more punch to our shooting phase? I guess the most obvious way is to always hold them in reserve and either outflank, move-on from your table-edge, or deep-strike.
Outflanking: This is not so good for the Valykrie. The ranges of its weapons are a serious hindrance and its primarily a troop transport so you really need to be coming on where you want. Astropaths make outflanking a little more dependable, but still not 100% reliable.
Moving on From Table-Edge: Leaves it too far away to do anything and really requires a flat-out move (see above).
Deep-Strike: Now I like this for Valykries. Deep-Strike in, fire your weapons, hopefully survive the retaliation, next turn deploy a Vet squad kitted with nasty weapons, and then use the Valykrie for additional fire support (if you're lucky, maybe getting two turns of solid dakka before it explodes).
I'd really like to see some further insight on how people intend to use, and/or keep alive, their Valykries.
Last edited by counterwavecounter; April 18th, 2009 at 05:22.
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I've used the Valkyrie in 3 battles so far and I've found that it worked best used as a deepstriker especially in games where you have to take objectives. I've used it versus SOB/ Tyranids/ Eldar. The Vendetta version proved quite useful against both the sisters and the eldar whereas the Valk was better against Tyranids. I used a squad of hardened vets in 2 of the games and a squad of stormtroopers in the last. I then picked up an infantry squad and dropped it on the same objective that the stormtroopers were 'minding' it works well and against the eldar it did draw a lot of firepower however most of their tank killers had been neutralised already with some pretty devastating battlecannon and earthshaker shooting. They did get destroyed in 2 of the battles but survived one intact.
I noticed that your new here, so let me be the first to warn you, ressurecting threads, as this one has been unactive for months now is not looked upon very kindly around here, so just check when the last post was before you put anything in. On a complete other note here welcome to LO.
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Am I the only one, who thinks of the Valkyrie as a fragile Falcon?
Originally Posted by Karmoon