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I had an idea of getting a veteran squad with a heavy flamer and two flamers and putting them into a chimera with two heavy flamers. This seems like a lot of fire, however i have one problem that could unhinge it all. Fire arcs!
The flamers in th squad can shoot out from hatch no problem parch up by side then flame, turret flamer no problem. BUT what about the one on the hull to what angle can this direct the template. This might mean having a non usable flamer on the front if park side ways on but if go front ways on the squad inside have difficulty getting there flamers to bear.
What does eveyrone think or am i reading too much into this?
Hull mounted weapons have a 45 degree arc of fire as described on page 58 of the 40k rulebook. So you wouldn't be able to fire the hull mounted heavy flamer sideways, but then how many flamers do you need?!
yer i thought that, but then that brings up another question would it then be better to have a heavy bolter on the hull instead, have one less flamer with wont be as potentially useful and get extra hits in?
Might as well throw a demo charges on em and make them your anti-HQ team as well. Jump out of transport, throw charges, burn everything... *drool*
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yer i thought of that too be pritty sick but down side starts getting expensive in pts and it mixes the roles of the units. But having two going together one burns one blows stuff up!
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I have been trying to find a good answer to this one:
Weapons fired from the hatch are measured from the hatch. (p39 - IG 5th ed, "... but for simplicity sake we assume all shots to be taken from the hatch.") p66 rulebook - "Ranges and line of sight are measured from the fire point itself."
Using the flame template, and measuring from the hatch, the template would be over the chimera.
Templates cannot be placed so that they are over friendly models. (p29 mini-rulebook, 2nd para under template).
Conclusion is that you cannot fire a flamer from the hatch.
Last edited by Torden; May 7th, 2009 at 17:45.
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It's debatable, but Sisters have been doing it for years at various tournaments without it becoming an issue.
I don't see the attraction of that setup. Passengers can't fire at cruising speeds, so you would have a lot of short-ranged weaponry in a fragile vehicle that can only move 6" a turn. It's a cheap enough unit but I can't see it causing dozens of hits to an enemy squad. You'd be better off with a Hellhound.
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i didnt think about defencive weapons at all ro did i think about the speed of them been able to fire lol it may not be worth it. However passangers can still get out a crusing speed then shoot