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My friend returned to the hobby after some time off, so I helped him along with grasping 5th ed. (He previously played by 2nd ed. and just started 3rd before he quit the hobby)
He chose marines simply because of how inexpensive black reach was to buy back into the hobby (otherwise he was thinking tau)
First 3 games I played him, my wolf scouts came from behind and blew up his dreadnought. Finally, on game 4, he decided to deploy his terminators right behind his dreadnought to trump my scouts.
He laughed and laughed, cause he thought he'd done it - he'd countered my scouts
I simply ignored that whole group for the whole game and proceeded to destroy the rest of his army with my entire one; I outnumbered him by about 1.5-2x anyways, and with his terminators effectively sitting out (and his dread shooting one shot/turn from the corner), it was even more. Then, he realized his guys were getting worked, so he ran is terminators and dread up. I then killed them as well with 1 turn to spare.
As for my scouts, on the turn they came in, instead of going for the dread, they insta-killed his captain with melta guns, who was hiding over in the corner (it was a KP mission).
I thought it was funny cause of the whole terminator business, but I guess you had to be there
I laughed inside, not for the main story, but for the last line.
"I thought it was funny but I guess you had to be there." After that long paragraph I couldn't help but crack a smile because of that.
I hope he maintains a good attitude even though you kept on handing it to him hard. It sounds kind of rough what you were doing to him. But, I guess you had to be there.
Way to "help him along with grasping 5th ed." Now maybe he'll retire early.
I think that when someone is new to the game, or just returning after a long absence, if he gets beat too badly, he has a higher tendency to get discouraged and call it quits. 2 of my friends did just that. Anyways, take it a little easy on the guy. At least until he's able to get more stuff to better prepare against your army.
But then again, what do I know? I wasn't there.
I probably gave the wrong impression. Anyways, every game was friendly. I don't "go easy" on him by playing badly, but I do help him lay out options and tactical possibilities, often that he didn't think of. I debrief him after every game (for longer than the game played). And I also help him build his army list.
Well, to a certain extent you have to take it easy on new players. Wolf Scouts with their OBEL gives even veteran players fits. Starting out, its hard enough figuring out how to deal with the troops in front of you. And now you have to worry about guys behind you too?
Anyway, I know you were just trying to relate a funny story about the Termies trying to trump your Wolf Scouts. I just know that especially starting off, its never fun to feel like you are being outmanovered at every turn.
You're intial post made it sound like you were beating the snot out of him to help him learn and then coaching him during and after what he did wrong. Its kind of like Gary Kasparov playing a 6th grader at chess. He knows counters to every move, so if he told the 6th grader what moves he could do, Kasparov would already know how to counter every one of them. Its a very pitched battle against the 6th grader. But that was just my initial reaction to how you described the situation. Its all good.
Thats just my random take off of the description you posted. You more than anyone else posting on this forum wants to see this guy continue to play. It sounds like he gets some satisfaction from the game and is savoring the day to when he can finds a gambit that turns the game for him.