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the successor chapter i'm playing as is known for its use of older/unique armor types and the number of holy relics they use, as far as the rules go am i allowed to use models like the grey knight models with their more ornate armour if i build them within the boundaries of my codex and colors? my armies is based off an army mentioned in the dark angels codex.
Sure you could. As you stated, you're modeling and painting them up as the Successor chapter you're using. People use models from other armies as 'counts as' a lot. If you're worried, just tell your opponent what they are at the start of the game.
ok thanks i'm new so i was just makin sure i could do that before i drop money on the knights models
Only problem I can think of that you might have is if you go and do offical GW tourny's. I've seen some pretty strict rules and such which might restrict you from using them like that. But who knows, rules are slightly different everywhere.
"In the Soviet army it takes more courage to retreat than advance." -Joseph Stalin
Imperial Guard = Soviet Army? Me thinks so.
You'll need to do a decent abount of converting, as GK bodies come merged with the Storm Bolter arm, and not every marine gets access to any kind of CCW, so the more specific you can be about your plans to include your models the better advice we can offer.
As for tourneys and such, I would imagine as long as they follow WYSIWYG, they shouldn't have problems, obviously if your "Tactical Marines" are modeled with Stormbolters there'd be issues.
Rules-wise you could simply include the GKs as Allies and use the rules from the Daemonhunters Codex for them. It'll be a lot simpler than trying to convert them to regular Tactical Marines because, as Mike says, they're metal models with most of the Grey Knight-ish details built into them, and they're all posed around a gauntlet mounted storm bolter and a Nemesis Force Weapon. To make them look like authentic Tactical Marines you'd have to remove the gauntlet-mounted storm bolter and the ammo feed which runs up their arm, the Grey Knights chapter badge which is moulded onto the left shoulder, the Grey Knights chapter badge moulded onto the chest, the big old halberd which tactical marines don't use, and then repose them so they don't look silly when they're carrying a bolter.
Bearing in mind that they're all metal models, this is a hell of a lot to ask of yourself. Ruling them in as Allies means you're spending a lot of points on them, but they're so much better than regular Tactical Squads in all respects (aside from heavy firepower and dedicated transport options) that it's worth it. If you're worried about fluff, well... it's fluff. There are any number of ways to avoid calling them Grey Knights in fluff you're writing for yourself.
i was thinking of using the grey knights terminator models to make kind of a unique deathwatch look, i wouldnt be using their normal marine units, like you said tacticals with storm bolters would def be a problem.
The Terminator models are slightly easier to convert because the Chapter badge and other details are larger and easier to file off, but you'll still need to replace the Nemesis Force Weapons with powerfists unless you're willing to pay +5pts per model for a normal power weapon. Paying the extra points would be the easiest way to do it because normal Termie powerfists are too thick for GKT arms. The other problem is that Grey Knight Terminators are very distinctive models, and while that's not going to be a problem in friendly games it might not be tourney-legal. However, if your Chapter is a Dark Angels successor then green-stuffing some robes onto your Termies is a good idea; that way it saves you having to file off the detail on the body and makes them look more Darkly Angelic.
at some point i would like to try my hand at tourneys, would this really present that big a problem? i really am just interested in the torso/head because of their look, i would do the arms and weaponry straight out of the DA codex, and would doing the robes for them with the green stuff help smooth out the ruffles with the people who might have a problem with the different models ?
do we have tutorials on using green stuff here on LO ?