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My friend plays Eldar, and he loves Waveserpents. Thankfully he doesn't have tons of money and has "only" 3 Serpents in his list, which runs something like:
Farseer-fortune, doom, witchblade
x8 Scorpions w/ Exarch, Biting Blade, Waveserpent with Star Engines+TL SC
x8 Banshees w/ Exarch, Waveserpent with Star Engines+TL SC
x6 Firedragons w/ Exarch, Firepike, Waveserpent with Star Engines+TL SC
x 8 Dire Avengers w/ Exarch, Defend, Bladestorm, Shimmershield
(Stays on objective)
x2 Squads of 20 Storm Guardians w/ Warlock and Conceal
Total: Around 1500 pts.
So, he's killed me a couple of times with this list, and I was just wondering what general strategies a SM player would use to take a Semi-Mechdar list like this one down?
On Warseer: Iracundus: "So you might end up with "renegade" Chapters, but more split due to ideology rather than because the big bogeyman of Chaos suddenly makes them all cackling mustache twirling villains."
We need to see what you field yourself to be able to best advise you.
“ Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. ” - Thomas Paine
the only advice i can give you without knowing your list and playing style is
1 plasmacannons will be your best friends against eldar they deny the saves of all eldar infantry even those scorpians hits them with a blast and has enough strength to damage a wave serpent or instakill a farseer
2 for those fire dragons, as they're probrably your biggest threat in that list bait them out of their wave serpent with an empty rhino, if it works listen closely because this is important shoot them until they die
3 you dont need to invest in any heavy antitank weapons, missile launchers and plasma weapons should do fine against this army as they dont have any of the scary you can't kill my vehicle upgrades that eldar can take and only max out at av12
other than that without knowing your list thats all i can really say
Ask me about the Black and White Space Marine on the Black and White Bike!!!
My List is as follows (It sometimes changes, but this was what I had last time I faced him):
Captain w/Plasma Pistol and PW
X3 Squads of 10 Tacticals
x5 Scouts w/BP/CC Weapon
Sarge has meltabombs
Attack Bike w/MM
Attack Bike w/MM
Predator with HB Sponsons
LR with MM
Full Devastator Squad with
Basically, last time we played, he moved 24", and killed both attack bikes. Storm move up. I get out and I shoot. I do nothing to his Serpents, maybe a stun, but his Serpents had an upgrade that allowed them to move still. Next turn. He moves, drops his Banshees and Scorpions in a line of ten, and multicharges 2 Tac squads with the banshees, while targeting the other tac squad with the Scorpions. Fire Dragons get out and crisp the LR. Fire Dragon Wave Serpent shoots and kills some scouts. Storm move up and the Banshee/Scorpion Waveserpents move 12 inches away instead of shooting. Farseer Dooms a squad and Fortunes the Banshees. My guys get mauled, and the all die one way or another from combat or sweeping advance. My turn. I kill a Waveserpent with my devs. Then he wipes me out.
I would like to point out that he usually doesn't table me, at least not that quickly, especially when I get first turn.
Please tell me what to do. I mean, I know my list is bad, so don't try and preserve any part of it when critiquing the list/my tactics because I know It's a bad list.