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Cause play alot of games with my buddy, and its a pain in the ass to win against him. He typically runs 3 squads of 30 boyz. Couple trukks, either nobs w/painboy, or mega nobs.
In a 1500 point game. It seems for the life of me i cant fight the boyz with much anything less then a chaplain and assault terms. For 6 points a model a boy is bs. 4 attacks on the charge at 4 str.... Cheated imo. Basically a squad of 30 boyz can throw 120 attacks.
A Vindicator and a Whirlwind certainly helps. Plenty Heavy Bolters don't hurt either. Keep an Assault Squad or two held back to counter-attack once they've been whittled down.
tac squads with missile launchers work good. also pack up on flamers. i have a dreadnought with auto cannon that i use for orks. predator with twin lascannons and side mounted heavy bolters. vindicator is a very good option. assault squads and vanguard squads with jump pack work out very good. remember when it comes to fire power go with a larger number of guns not good guns.
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There really is very little art in fighting Orks. Any weapon that fires a template or blast will destroy mobs of boys.
Really, we need to see your army list so we can tell you what isnt working and what is, then we'll give you a list of things to go and buy which will not only help you fight your friend, but also every other army type out there =)
Well my lists arent working, so i am starting from scratch.
The only problem I have is he usually walks around with 1 500+ unit, most likely nobs with pain boy and pclaws.
chap w jump
assault marines pweapon For counter charge.
2 land speeders with heavy bolters
3 tact squads 1 rhino, 3 flamers, 3 ml's
1 scout squad 6x plus telion all snipers
1 dread plasma cannon
Is around 1500 points.
What tactics have you or currently use against him? How do you deploy your army? Do you form a gunline or move forward to engage him?
You wont have problems with that list but id make more use of the landspeeders, either give them the typhoon missile launcher or a second heavy weapon a assault cannon or heavy flamer would do nice.
If you get 2 more rhinos or razorbacks it would help alot and help bottle necking them, plus the razorbacks can be given anti horde guns.
Apart from that looks good should be taking scores of orks down.
Actually the land speeders have 2x heavy bolters each. I got them to use for shooting long ranged weapons like lootas, or zap guns.
Your list isnt so bad my friend.
The Chappy and ASM's are not really the ideal unit for tackling Orks, but they'll do.
The number of bolter shots fired really should cut down a unit of orks per turn (12 heavy bolter shots, 48 rapid firing bolters plus pistols, flamers and ML's) Thats more than enough fire power to rip the Orks apart.
So, the list isnt what's letting you down, what are your tactics?