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Hello everyone ^^
I was simply wondering, the flight stand that comes with the Valkyrie kit is of a certain height, one that is quite high I think, and I was wondering...
Can you change the height of the flightstand?
Of course, in a rules wise manor, not in the general hobby manor. No real problem there
Personally I don't see why not. It's not like it interferes with the rules (to my knowledge).
As long as it's not adjustible mid game, if I recall correctly: Yes.
But making it lower or higher both benefits and hinders you almost equally.
Theese were exactly my thoughts. I was thinking that since i'll be running two of them I'd model one of them flying at normal height and the other one swooping low. Which not only would add some variety to the look.
It would also give me some veriety in their uses, seeing as the one swooping lower might be able to take cover once in a while, in differance to the one flying higher that would instead have better vantage points for firing.
Thanks for the input guys ^^
From a rules perspective models must be mounted on the base that they are supplied with. The stand is part of the base and therefore the Vendetta/Valkyrie must be mounted on it in order for it to be legal.
I'm fairly certain on that aspect. If anyone can find something to contradict that, please go ahead.
Seconded. Models must be mounted on the bases provided. Of course, if you're playing with friends who are okay with whatever, then go ahead. I think it's visually a cool idea. But it won't fly (hahaha) in tournaments.
I personally cut my flight base down to about 2/3 the original height and magnetized it to the model. The magnetizing was the best thing I ever did for the Valkyrie. Made the whole model much sturdier. Also lowering the base made the whole model much less prone to tipping over mid-game.
Not to mention that the shortened flying base now fits in my army case right next to the Valkyrie.
Well, you're reading the rule correctly, but applying it incorrectly.
It is still on the base provided. The base being the round oval part. It's important for measuring movement distances or assault ranges, deployment, etc... Changing the height of the model doesn't change the base. Take a peak at scenic basis. Lots of models are higher or lower on the base than provided, but are tournament legal. The flight portion of it should be completely up to the user.
Now, to clarify, I don't change the height of my flying bases, just to be safe. But the base isn't being changed. Just the part that allows it to hover. Two different things. Being part of the base doesn't make it the base.
Yes, I was thinking exactly the same thing about the scenic bases. There are a lots of time when the bases lift the models really high up, even in tournament armies.
But, ofc, this is usually only inidivual models, but I have seen it done with things like Obliterators and such, which could in the end give them some favours.
As said before it will bring both upsides and dwonsides with mounting it lower/higher. The lower it is, the higher the chance to get some kind of cover (still, good luck hiding that thing ) and the higher it is, the higher the chance to get some good shots of. I was thinking about the fact that i've also seen things like this bee done with Land Speeders, positioning them so they look "dramatic" by giving them some kind of csenic base by replacing the fight rod with a piece of a building or a tree, and then positioning it more dramitcally so add a sense of movement. This, will bring theese kind of models both upsides and downsides to, but i've never seen anyone complain about that.
Just some random ramblings ^^
There is a clause somewhere (and I can't be arsed to look this early in the morning) that mentions that you can't "model for advantage." I guess you and the tourney organizers would have to have a talk about whether lowering the stand would constitute modeling for advantage. Personally, I think it hurts more than it helps, since the purpose of these things is to kill a few transports in the early game and that is far easier when you can see the entire board, but meh...
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