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Hello everyone. Recently at a game yesterday i ran into a player who had just gotten back from playing in some tournament in England and let me know of quite a great idea. He let me know that at GT tournaments you either have to have a tank that is either made up completely of Gamesworkshop bits or have a tank with no Gamesworkshop bits at all. I just wanted to clarify if this is true? Because if it is i have a great idea in mind:
*Since it is the 40k universe and there are millions of worlds owned by humanity you would think that there would be more then just the standard leman russ designs for tanks. If anything there would be hundreds if not hundreds of thousands of variants, maybe millions.
*Using some WW2 Shermans or some russian T-34's in combination with cadian and valhallan infantry would set the staging point for some amazing looking armies on the table and provide great variety.
*This doesnt have to be limited to WW2 as a friend of mine did an army of cadians with M1-Abrams tanks that looks well tournament, golden deamon good of the American Army in the Middle East. It is amazing and if what my friend who attended the GT tournament said, able to be played.
Anyways i am planning on doing the sherman idea using standard shermans as leman russ battle tanks and fireflys or hellcats as vanquishers, keeping these two types of tanks in mind of a planet that doesnt neccesarily have the technology to field a vast armory of vehicles. With that in mind use some german halftracks as chimeras, ect. Tell me what you think and is that true what he said?
I wouldn't count on this working at official events here in the States. AFAIK, models still have to use a majority of GW parts and plasticard to be valid.
In tournaments in the UK, no, in official ones you can't use tanks with no GW parts at all.
That's the GW policy so you use their products.
It would also be a problem getting exactly the same size and sponsoon placement / movement etc.
Not a bad idea, but not something you could put in a tournament, least of all GT.
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I thought so but according to him he said you could, dont know what tournament he was talking about that allowed that. Anyways i would it be very hard/ has anyone ever tried to create ww2 look alike tanks with plasticard?
The problem that always crops up whenever you do something like this is making sure that the tanks look like they would fit into the 40k universe. You can't just take a sherman and stick it on a battlefield in 40k, it just wouldn't look right.
Now, I imagine that you would be converting them a bit anyway, but what you have to do is take a GW design, and make it look like, say, a sherman, rather than taking a sherman and making it look like a leman russ.
Take a look at the link in my sig. Theres an armoured car in there that looks vaguely like one the americans used (an M15 maybe? I'm not much of an expert). My other suggestion would be to have a look at earlier tanks from the first, and second world wars. These tanks have a less 'sleek' design as befits their early design. Have a look at French tanks.There were some very interesting designs there it must be said.
Check this out.YouTube - FRENCH TANKS OF WORLD WAR TWO
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ChadMS said it well.
Your best bet isn't to modify a WWII tank kit to look like an IG vehicle. It's to modify an IG (or other 40K vehicle) vehicle to look similar to a WW2 tank.
It's what I'm doing currently with my Hydras. I'm making them resemble the old Soviet ZSU AA tanks of the 50's and 60's. But instead of modifying a ZSU kit, I'm modifying some Chimeras with plasticard and various GW bits to look like something that fits in the 40K universe.
That may be true, but in design terms the Imperium has a definate "language" it speaks. Which is blocky, angular, WWI-ish, with oversized barrels on the guns. If your conversion is going to look like a 40K IG tank, you need to make sure you speak that same language.
Sherman models, for instance, are much too rounded. Which is realistic (more effective too in deflecting shots), but it's not in tune with the Imperium's design language. So you'd have to square it up, add lots of rivits (whereas the Sherman turrets were all cast-iron), and swap the barrel for something larger. You'd also need to remove as much of the Sherman's small details as you could to match the sparseness of a Russ.