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I’m currently working on a mech guard army (you can see the army list here - http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ml#post1657227 )
The army features 1 Manticore and I’m debating dropping one of my leman russes and the 2 Banewolf's extra armour for a full squadron of hydras in games of 1750pts, given the amount of monsterous creatures and mechanised armies running around?
However before I make this decision I would like to hear about other player’s experiences with Hydras and Manticores and how well do they preformed plus how they fit into your army?
Also can the Manticore fire directly?
Last edited by Proiteus; March 14th, 2010 at 18:28.
AFAIK, no, the Manticore cannot fire directly.
As for Hydras, I've used them some. Including at last year's Ard Boyz. They perform well when you have a good position for them. But their lack of mobility (1/2 the AC shots when moving) hampers their ability to adapt and deny (or gain) cover.
As for squadrons, I don't see a need for more than 2 Hydras in a unit. Three of them is simply overkill. I killed 3 Daemon Princes and a Great Unclean One over 2 games at the Ard Boyz Semis with just a pair of them.
I believe the Manticore can fire directly - its weapon is simply barrage, ordnance. The unit entry doesn't have any restriction like the mortar units do.....anyways, nothing in the unit entry leads me to believe it fires any differently from other barrage ordnance weapons. Which should mean it can fire directly if it chooses.
Good point Maturin. I was thinking that the Manticore couldn't fire directly, but what you pointed out makes sense. Also under Vehicles Shooting - Ordnance Barrage Weapons, the main rule book states that vehicles carrying ordinance barrage weapons can choose to fire them directly.
Personally I love Hydra's though the 1/2 autocannon is a shame, the best thing is you can swap turrets and have a chimera!
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I used 2 manticores in my second game w/the new guard and have never looked back. The Manticore is a monstrous beast that destroys infantry as easily as it tears apart vehicles. S10 Ordinance makes short work of everything I fire it at. Direct firing up to 3 shots onto one vehicles is crazy! Also in my experience the Manticore is the bane of Nobs everywhere. "Oh I wound you on 2+ and all you get is your 5+ invuln and it insta kills you?" HAHA! I've also killed an entire IG platoon (command and 2 command squads) in one round of 3 blasts. I love the Manticore and it's versatility. On the other side though I'm not really a fan of the Hydra. It's an ok transport popper. That seems the opposite of what you would assume of my preferences. I'm a big fan of the autocannon but it taking up a slot in HS that can die to one shot doesn't do it for me.
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Wait.... A land raider takes up a HS slot...and can die in one shot. WFT!?!taking up a slot in HS that can die to one shot doesn't do it for me.
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