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Hello everyone. As most of you are well aware i am putting the final touches on my Steel Legion Airborne army when i came up with an idea to help me finish this army faster. Also be aware that this idea would also benefit other guard armies wishing to remain in the airborne fluff and also add some variety and individuality on the table top as well as being tournament legal. The idea i have is to create a "griffon heavy mortar tank, with a dozerblade" as a "Support Unit" for an airborne army with just using standard infantry models and some creativity. Now how i plan to accomplish that in more detail is listed below and bear with me this is just a plan in the thinking process:
-Mesure the width and length of a Standard Imperial Guard Chimera Chasis
-Cut out a base using the mesurements you have taken, best bet will be to use the bases you cut out for fantasy armies (will make it a little wider if i have to in order for it to work)
-Around the perimeter of the base i will be placing 2-4 half circle emplacements of sandbags (using greenstuff) to represent the "armor" of the vehicle.
-Using extra bits will be creating a "drop canister" much like those used in WW2 by the German Fallschimjager (paratroopers).
-For those who dont know what that is the drop canister was a canister that the german paratroopers would load their heavy weapons such as mortars and machineguns into and then with a parachute attatched drop it along with the paratroopers. The infantry would then find the canisters, open them up and then use those heavy weapons.
-After creating the drop canister i will place it in the middle of the base i previously cut out and after flocking and painthing the base i will be using some green silk like cloth along with some fishing line to create the parachute it came in on around it on the base.
-At the front of one of the narrow ends of the base i will be placing a steel legion paratrooper armed with a heavy flamer to create the "hull mounted heavy flamer".
-Within the Sandbag Emplacements i will be placing 2-4 heavy weapon mortar teams (the mortar crewman and the mortar itself will be located on standard small infantry bases).
-After all is said and done it should look like the paratrooper mortar teams landed, opened the canister and deployed the mortars in hastily built defensive positions with the help of the heavy flamer paratrooper clearing any difficult undergrowth for the "position" to be built.
-Count the whole thing as a Griffon Heavy mortar with the idea the mortars are firing and impacting on their targets at almost the exact same time with a hull heavy flamer.
Now looking over this alot of you may be wondeing why not just buy and convert some Griffon Tanks? The reason again is that im trying to create both the aiborne feel and express some individuality at the same time. With this idea also as far as i can tell that this would be pretty easy to explain to an opponent and be legal at the same time. Now how to explain and show how the rules apply:
VEHICLE STATS AND UPGRADES:
-The Sandbags represent the "Armor" of the vehicle
-The "Dozer Blade" on the unit will be represented that unlike a tank the support unit is made up of standard infatry and therefore cannot get immobilised in difficult terrain.
-The Hull mounted heavy flamer will be represented by the Guardsmen with the heavy flamer who is detailed in the support team of clearing away any difficult undergrowth with his weapon.
-The base will "pivot and move with the heavy flamer representing the front of the vehicle.
VEHICLE DAMAGE CHART:
-Crew Shaken: The teams duck and are unable to fire as some enemy fire has found them, however still able to manuver
-Crew Stunned: (Sorry if i got the Shaken and Stunned mixed up) The teams are taking fire and hit the dirt leaving them unable to move or fire that turn.
-Weapon Destroyed: A blistering wave of fire wipes out the mortar crewman or the heavy flamer.
-Imobilised: To many of the men in the support unit are wounded to move and need to remain stationary in order to recieve proper medical care.
-4,5 & 6 destroyed results: On a 4 and 5 the crews are wiped out and due to their unexploded munitions the area is counted as difficult terrain, on a 6 one of the munition stores of the support unit has been hit and set the ammo off in a great explosion.
Overall this is an idea that i think is can be legally represented on the table, fluffy in terms of holding true to its airborne roots and also just will look really cool. As far as i can tell there is nothing that may stop this from being illegal as i think i am following all the needed requirements (in terms of size and weapons) and not breaking or stretching any rules. Please all and any posts, comments and thoughts are welcome and thanks for reading mates!
Last edited by GMAleron; March 26th, 2010 at 15:45.
It would be kindy tricky to have them move, or to give them the right dimensions (height in particular) for a vehicle.
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Well since it is a Griffon chances are i wont be doing to much moving throughout the game and honestly besides that i dont see any iffyness. If i have to i wont even put sandbags in just say they have armor due to them being in some rocky terrain like around or in the base.
Great idea. Post some photos when you do it to show us the WIP.
I've seen someone had a basilisk made to look like a bunker (building) with the gun emplacement. Obviously when that thing moves it looks a bit weird, but meh! .. it looked cool and individual.
I think this is a fantastic idea and look forward to WIP of it being made.
Main problem I can see is getting them to be 'griffon' height though, as long as you sort that i'm sure most people will gladly accept it if you tell them what it is before hand. If they don't they are just a small minded idiot who you shouldn't really want to play anyway.
Height already taken care of, i will be putting a rock or some other terrain feature with a guy on it with binoculars to act as the "spotter" for the support unit . And no worries mate i will post some pics on here when i finish it
Sounds cool, im about to go buy so Valks right now to get my airborne army started
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What about simple Griffon deployed by Thunderhawk the same way Leman Russes are?
I'm pretty sure the fluff says somewhere that thunderhawks are marine aircraft. (though I see no problem with whatever the guard equivalent is)