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i just bought them, but haven't opened the blister yet in case i need to return them. does anyone have any experience, tips, using them?
creed is alright... ish.
good for orders and special rules.
Creed works in all foot armies and if you have a valuable unit to Outflank, like a Demolisher or something. Kell is awful, it's good they gave the choice to take him as otherwise he'd be lots of wasted points.
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I like Creed, he's great for orders and you can even give your guys furious charge with him, much like Straken. Plus outflank is useful for one of your units.
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I like bringing him in larger games. The ability to grant any "unit" outflanking is pretty nasty. You can get imaginative with your options... I personally like outflanking a pair of Erradicators or even Demolishers... bring along an Astropath and watch your opponent's face as 2 Demolishers drive in behind his lines. Some people have also experimented with the 40-50 man blob infantry squad with Comissar, power weapons for Sgts. 1st Rank/2nd Rank fire until they get close, then furious charge them into what's left.
Creed is useful, kell is not. Use creed to outflank some armour and as was said above add an Astropath and take a platoon with al raheem (in larger games) and let the fun begin
I would take them both with Chenkov and conscripts.
That way the conscripts keep coming back and charges at I4 S4 and fearless so they will die in your opponent's turn and come back on your table edge ready to do it over and over again for 5 turns.
Very annoying for your opponent in objective games.
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i just used both in 2 games against tau. creed was more than useful: 4 orders, and when i had extra orders to use, "For Cadia" on squads as a precaution ended up helping me against outflanking. i put a medipack (for the first time) in his squad, which kept him alive for a bit.
kell on the other hand. =(