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My fellow captains, I must ask you your thoughts on a rather vexing issue...
I started a codex marines army about two years ago by buying the Battle Company box set. This gave me a tremendous starting foundation of rhinos, devs, tacticals, and assault marines. From this platform I built up a sizable (3000+ points) marine army. I was happy with it, my sternguard and Ironclads were running about destroying things, and I even occasionally used my Thunderfire cannon.
Then the Space Wolf codex came out.
Being of Norwegian decent myself and always a fan of vikings, I fell in love with both the fluff and the rules. Although SW lacked some of the fun toys (Sternguard especially missed) I enjoyed an army that had awesome heroes, usable devastators and shamanistic superstitions. But what was I to do? Buy a whole new army? Instead I had my marines count as their wolf equivalents and bought what I needed to in order to create unique wolf units.
I now plan to try the same thing with BA, buying/converting sanquinary guard, baal predators, and sanguinary priests, while using my core of tactical and assault marine models.
Meanwhile I endeavor to come up with fluff to explain three organizations of combat doctrine in one chapter (as my codex marines were a homebrew to begin with) which is actually going rather well. I suppose it helps being an english major.
My question to you all is whether you consider this an alright thing to do? All of my friends had little issue with tactical marines as grey hunters or devastators as long fangs, but do you? If I put this army on the table, with its original color scheme and name, would you scoff or start rolling dice as though nothing was amiss?
Is there a valid rule set (codex) in use?
Are the models appropriate (are they Marine figures)?
Do they have the appropriate wargear for the role they're playing (proper weapons and equipment)??
If you answer yes to all three questions, you've got a viable army, no amount of whining from anybody else will change that.
Agreed. I prefer SM to SW ones, but prefer SW rules...
I got the SM models but play SW, my colour scheme is purple and white. No stress from my friends or the store. Play the rules you want as long as it is WYSIWYG
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Create your own chapter with a custom colour scheme, and swap codexes at will. It's what I do....and it's pretty sweet.
Agree with everyone else. I would even be happy with the odd bit of proxying, so long as everything is clearly explained at the start. You paid big money for them, You can use them how you like.
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Tack me to the list of using a personalized chapter with an SW codex. So long as everything is legal to the codex you're using, and your opponent can identify what they're playing against, it's legal. Anything else is just your oppoenent pushing their self-imposed world-view on you, rules that you don't have to follow. Be kinda like if they said you can't play a space marine army because they play a space marine army and space marines don't fight each other, or some other hogwash.
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Armies: Space Wolves, Imperial Guard, Emperors Children, Necrons, Eldar
I just started the Space Wolves, and what I did was get my hands on a lot of cheap AoBR marines (and other miscellaneous marines from ebay) and bought a Space Wolf infantry set. The set came with more than enough bits for me to convert the AoBR marines into proper Space Wolves. I clipped off the Space Marine heads, and then used green stuff to attach the new head and fill in the gaps. There's plenty of extra great bits for additional converting as well.
As for the original question, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's at the very least good enough to represent a duck.
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The only time I ever have a problem with it is when people change them on the fly. For example, I know someone who started with Codex Marines, moved on to Dark Angels when it came out (said they fit his theme better), back to Codex Marines when the new one came out, then Space Wolves then Blood Angels. All for 'fluff' reasons. There's no real reason you can't within the rules, but it always reminds me of the old CCG 'tactic' of netdecking.