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After an initial start with my Hghst army, I have rather ground to a halt - Im afraid I am really not at all inspired. Casting around for something to do with Steel Legion - I purchased a platoon - I hit on the idea of doing a dune-themed House Harkonnen army - Gliedi Prime, the HH homeworld, is a barren toxic waste, explaining the masks, and Herbert expressly stated they were based on the Nazi's. The 'canon' Harkonnen colours are blue and red,but in films they are invariably portrayed in blacks and reds (with greatcoats and stahlhelm knockoffs or Kabuto, but I prefer the Nazi look). Which do you advise I go with? Also, does anyone have any idea how to represent the good Baron? This is only a basic idea, so all thoughts welcome.
Last edited by Steel Legionnaire; September 5th, 2010 at 12:32.
You can do blue and red. Just make it a dark, desaturated blue (or cyan) against an intense red. Or a blue-grey, as the old Nazi uniforms actually were. With red details and black/silver piping.
As for the Baron, he was a true genius in the books, so I'd make him count as Creed. Which would dictate an all-infantry or half-infantry force to make the best use of his orders.
Dunno what model you'd base the Baron on. Creed is stout, but not fat. And he needs to look like he's floating. May require a custom sculpt with green stuff over a base model.
The most (Lynch) movie-like models for his troops would be the Titan crew from Forge world. With some conversions, those could be his body-guard.
Forge World - TITAN CREW ON FOOT
The Titan Commander would make a good Guild representative (Officer of the Fleet). While a Sanctioned Psyker model with red lips would make a good Piter DeVries (Astropath).
A doctor with a syringe would be fun to model, but not very competitive in the game.
Sting/Feud could be represented with a converted Eldar model.
As for the rank and file, I'd prolly do either Death Corps of Krieg or Cadians with Pig Iron gas-mask heads. Maybe with a converted Titan Crewman as each squad's sergeant.
Many thanks - things really are going my way today, sold off the SL platoon in my Gaming group (at a profit!) and am now ordering PI heads and Cadians. - I really cannot thank you enough. Cant really afford Krieg- I thought SL was bad price wise. Incidentally, when I think about Harkonnen himself, should I go with the Mcneice/Books type or the more visibly pustuled miniseries? I am a big Herbert fan (books) so am very glad the Blue/Red can be pulled off while retaining the Nazi look I always thought of with Harkonnen - I feared it would look a bit odd.
Last edited by Steel Legionnaire; September 5th, 2010 at 21:11.
OMG! I have a house Atreides army!!! We have to play against each other.
I would also go with plastic cadians with the heads from Pig Iron. Although I'd use a VanSaar ganger for Feyd rather than convert an Eldar. Just easier.
Edit: If we ever play against each other, you should use an Inquisition HQ so you can take a Callidus assassin. The art of Kanly is still alive
Also, perhaps you should consider using stormtrooper rules for the Emperors "terror" troops (represented by those titan crew) and the rules for either standard or penal legion for the Harkonnen.
I use veteran rules to represent Fremen.
I don't want to but in on your thread but...
Last edited by RexTalon; September 6th, 2010 at 01:36.
As I recall, the Sardukar were dressed in Harkonnan livery when they attacked Arrakis. So maybe some Kasrkin in your basic paint scheme. Make sure they're a bit "too clean" compared to the Harkonnan infantry.
Also, the Baron used artillery in that battle (or was it later?). So you could build your force around an infantry-artillery theme. The book makes it seem like artillery was a throwback to the old days, but there's no mention of other tanks or armored vehicles at all. So it's probably the most effective fluff you can base the army on.
The Baron was one of the few things I liked about the SyFi version of Dune, so I'd go with that as your base for him. The Lynch movie made him mad/diseased instead of diabolical.
Why would you need an Inquisitor/Assassin when you have Marbo? Though Duncan Idaho fits him better.
And lastly, here's a link to someone's crazy Fremen army, complete with Sand Worms as Land Raiders.
DakkaDakka - Warhammer 40K Forums - Fremen Army
I like the idea of Sardukar = Stormtroopers and Fremen = Marines.
Once again, many thanks - also, I really like those Atreides models, congrats. On Harkonnen artillery - obviously make them grimy and ill-cared for, but I am unsure what to use - probably FW Hades Bassies - cost a lot, but as Harkonnen artillery is 'a throwback' i can afford to have limited numbers and stay fluffy. I am new to the guard, so any other artillery you would recommend? Particularly on the bassie front - the standard doest look right - perhaps the 'Vanaheim' shield? Cheaper, but still WW2-y.
Last edited by Steel Legionnaire; September 6th, 2010 at 18:31.
Go into the IG list sub-forum and look around at the advice given for artillery companies. You need to design the best list you can before you start blowing money on models.
I do have a rough idea in my head. Incidentally, while using Van Saar as Fayd-Rautha makes sense, I have never actually seen Necromunda in hand, so is their any scale distance. Also, as fluff-wise it is a bit of a stretch to have the good Baron or na-Baron (on that note, ideas for Glossu are welcome) turn up at each battle (probably just larger ones), how would you advise representing a Harkonnen commander? Perhaps an FW Princeps?
Last edited by Steel Legionnaire; September 7th, 2010 at 17:08.
There is NO scale difference between Necromunda and 40k.
Good point on the Baron, but remember from the movie he sent his nephew to do some dirty work too. So really Feyed could be your HQ in some cases.
Cool theme. You could cut through the wings of the valkyrie and use some plasticard tubes to join them back together and you'd have a very nice ornithopter.
I'm sceptical that you can really stay very true to the Dune fluff though. The warfare seems was meant to be done by hand to hand specialists with shields and limited in scope due to the emperor's hegemony. I don't think 40k is really set up to depict kung fu brawls and assassinations, and especially not with the guard army list.
Last edited by Korona; September 9th, 2010 at 03:34.
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