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Mistake in the writing!

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#1 ·
If you look at the page for Crowe (P42) under The Blade of Antwyr It says this:

"However, such is the fury the blade of antwyr provokes, that during a turn in which an enemy unit assults Crowe, all models in that unit gain the furious charge special rule and re-role failed to hit rolls for that assult phase."

I know they want it to mean that crowe and his unit get furious charge (as otherwise it helps your enemy) but the way it is written means that the enemy would get it.
In all the info under "The blade of Antwyr" the only point it uses the term unit is in reference to the "an enemy unit assults Crowe". So in literature that would mean that when you say unit without context in that same paragraph you are refering to the same unit.

So by the wording the unit attacking Crowe gets furious charge. Right?

It would need to say something like "...all models in his unit..." or "...all models in Crowe's unit..." for Crowes unit to get furious charge
 
#2 · (Edited)
I dont see it as a mistake, it's clear cut.

The enemy wants the weapon. If you assault Crowe, you get furious charge and re-roll failed to-hits. It's pretty clear cut.

So, yes, it helps the enemy. Your interpretation is, unfortunately, incorrect.

Edit:

Not that it's required to show it further, but Crowe isn't an IC. Why would a rule give his unit furious charge? He's a one man unit with no IC rule.
 
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Not that it's required to show it further, but Crowe isn't an IC. Why would a rule give his unit furious charge? He's a one man unit with no IC rule.
Good question, but ironically he actually does have a rule that gives him and the unit he's joined re-rolls to hit in "Titan's Herald." But that's only because he is a Brotherhood Champion and all Bro-Champs have it. Still, shows that a non-IC can still buff a unit if he could hypothetically join it. Just another reason why no IC status is annoying.

People dont get the FC because its a Deamon weapon and they want it, why would the Tau care? or a squad of Ultramarine Honur guard? they wouldent want it for themself, the reason they get the buff is because the deamon cant subvert crowe or his purifier buddys so it calls out to all those assaulting crowe, helping them to slay him with its power so that they can pick it up and it will be able to corrupt their weaker minds.
Eh, you kinda said it yourself anyway already, but I'll just highlight why you're contradicting yourself. The enemy will try to kill Crowe to take the sword, they just won't be conscious of why they're doing it or why they are so keen on the sword. Just because they won't think to themself "hey awesome, a daemon sword, i am evil and love daemons so i should grab that sword!" doesn't mean that they're not fighting harder because they want the sword. So basically, you kinda said 'they don't fight harder coz they want the sword, they fight harder because the sword makes them want it.' Either way, fact is they're fighting to take ownership of the sword.

If that seems circular and confusing, that's exactly the point, as I'm trying to demonstrate how circular and confusing your statement is.
 
#3 ·
It is actually written correctly, the enemy DOES get furious charge when they attack Crowe. Because he is carrying a daemon weapon everyone wants to kill him and take it, therefore they get furious charge. Sucks for Crowe, but it was Definitely intended this way.
 
#5 ·
Not too many, but there are a few precedents. I like the idea and it is only when they are on the charge, so you just choose "Blade shield" as his stance in that round and you should be fine. The good side is that your opponent will be temped to throw lots of people at his. Once they are in combat, it will be hard for them to disengage. He could be a great tar pit and his cleansing flame will whittle the enemy down round after round. That is also a group of people who will not be able to shoot at the rest of your forces.
 
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On the rules front you are right however fluff wise you are wrong.

People dont get the FC because its a Deamon weapon and they want it, why would the Tau care? or a squad of Ultramarine Honur guard? they wouldent want it for themself, the reason they get the buff is because the deamon cant subvert crowe or his purifier buddys so it calls out to all those assaulting crowe, helping them to slay him with its power so that they can pick it up and it will be able to corrupt their weaker minds.

:) HL
 
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#9 ·
Actually fluff wise it's right too, as if the Grey Knights are fighting you then you are, by nature, corrupt anyway so would likely want the weapon for yourself... The fluff's actually pretty screwed, as it bares no resemblance in any way/shape or form to the tabletop, otherwise you would never see a marine player agreeing to side with a Necron or Tyranid to get a game in a doubles match. Tyranid players in fact wouldn't side with anyone at all so would have to sit some evenings out altogether and would certainly never fight one another.
 
#10 ·
Fluffwise, Tyranids occasionally fight one another in a "See who's better" kind of way, or if one has been tainted somehow - it's unusual, but not unknown for Tyranids to suffer warp-taint. Them working alongside another usually happens when said faction has been taken over by a Genestealer cult.
 
#11 ·
Think of the Ring in Lord of the Rings. It is a corruptive artifact that makes all those nearby want to kill you for it.
 
#13 ·
You dont see what im trying to say, people arnt trying to kill him because they WANT the sword, the sword is reaching out to them and MAKEING them feel its rage so that they do kill him, see what im trying to get at.

They dont want to take the sword but the sword wants them to take it! :p
 
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