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I've seen the new Codex, it's a much nicer book [though as ultramarine obsessed as the IG one was Cadian obsessed]. But fellow khans, WS have been downgraded.
Bikes and assualt squads are now troops or elites
Transports take a fast attack options
vehicles are 0-1, the crusader is unusable
can take expert riders
NO CCWS FOR BIKES!!!
Too bad... :glare:
Some General Questions, as I am considering playing White Scars:
1. How do they play? From the rules in the Index they look like pure hit and run. New assault weapon rules make them pretty deadly, first letting out a salvo of bolter fire before charging headlong into the previously fired apon enemy.
2. Will all the rules in the Index become obsolete with the release of the new SM codex?
i think they will. GW has done it before. i'm thinking the index will be combined and each chapter will have a profile like in the chaos and imperial guard codices
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You can't use rapid fire weopons and then charge into combat Canbacon
Yes people i know that my spelling and punctuation is awful but I am product of British teaching pollicies so what can I do about it?
True for infantry, but iirc bikes can fire rapid fire and charge into combat according the new rules ...or was it the index.Originally posted by khazad varn@Oct 18 2004, 13:54
You can't use rapid fire weopons and then charge into combat Canbacon[snapback]232255[/snapback]
This would be another factor making white scars quite efficient, also considering that they have trubo boost capabilities on their bikes.
Just would be interested to know how they play since I've never seen them in battle.
Yep, just checked it yesterday. Bikes get full 12" movement and can fire rapid fire weapons, followed by charge into cc. Also the rapid fire weapons get their full 24 "range for bolters. Now that's pretty impressive stuff...
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It is a pretty mean setup, but chances are the White Scars "Born in the Saddle" ability will become a geneseed for the new codex, or something like it. Maybe it'll allow charging out of a moving vehicle, in which case the Rhino Rush will be reborn, and all non-cheesy players will groan in annoyance. :wacko: :glare: ^_^
Every whisper of the future from the Warp speaks of a hundred battles lost, a thousand lives devoured and a million enemies born. -- Inquisitor Lord Babel
Slow down skippy..This is the Space Marine codex we're talking about? the generic vanilla one? Just because vanilla marines are going to be hit with a stat change doesn't mean WS are. Remember in 3rd edition how the Space Marine codex mentioned nothing about the white Scares and all thier rules were found in the Index Astartes? Shouldn't it be the same in this case. From what I hear WS are getting thier own codex right? Wait for that to come out before you start declaring the WS have been downgraded.