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    Imperial Guard Versus Dark Eldar - Tips

    Hi Guys,

    My mate and I are starting up at the same time. I've chose IG, he's chosen Dark Eldar.

    We're probably going to have our first battle in a week or so. I've played like twice before, but both times I had my hand held by a veteran!

    Do you guys have some tried and tested methods of fighting Dark Eldar? I hear theyre very very vicious and even faster!


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    One thing I've learned, more generally but applicable to Dark Eldar as well, is that if an opponent stuns or shakes your vehicles (results 1 and 2 on the vehicle damage table) that's really a victory for your opponent. Granted the vehicle is not destroyed, but they've effectively negated that vehicle during that turn.

    For Dark Eldar, Haywire grenades and Haywire grenade launchers are REALLY good at keeping vehicles out of commission. That and lance weapons negate all the AV14 from a Leman Russ, so just keep that in mind.


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    Autocannons autocannons autocannons, I cannot express how much love an autocannon can become when facing against dark eldar. Leave the veterans with melta guns at home, if ur launching an assault to blow up their vehicless with some close up melta your just asking to lose those veterans the second they charge you. Remember that all his vehicles are open toppd so a plus 1 on the vehicle damage chart like always and the autocannon's strength and number of shots are useful. If you have the points and the money *cough* the hydra flak tanks are amazing at their jobs here. Just shoot from a far and bait them to the massive amount of shots. Hope this helps

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    Autocannons autocannons autocannons, I cannot express how much love an autocannon can become when facing against dark eldar. Leave the veterans with melta guns at home, if ur launching an assault to blow up their vehicless with some close up melta your just asking to lose those veterans the second they charge you. Remember that all his vehicles are open toppd so a plus 1 on the vehicle damage chart like always and the autocannon's strength and number of shots are useful. If you have the points and the money *cough* the hydra flak tanks are amazing at their jobs here. Just shoot from a far and bait them to the massive amount of shots. Hope this helps

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    yeah hydra are really at their best against the paper-armoured dark eldar vehicles.
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    Hydras are cheating. Don't use Hydras against him it's not fair.

    AV12 is actually quite tough for Dark Eldar to crack. Consider this - your ST6 multilasers are as effective vs his AV10 paper-boats as his ST8 dark lances are vs your AV12 Chimeras, except multilasers shoot 3 times!

    Against DE you need to learn to sacrifice units. As I said, it's hard for DE to break a lot of AV12. When he gets close your hull flamers and massed shooting will be very effective against his paper-thin troops.

    I don't know if you have read Call of the Wild but there's a scene in that book where a bulldog fights a wolf. He can dance around you, you need to push him, take up central positions on the board and dominate him.


    One great option would be outflanking sentinels. If he's trying to keep you at range then you can outflank and pop up near his troops (2/3 chance anyway!) then pepper his boats with multilasers or autocannons!
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    Maaaaaaanticores.


    Like everyone else said, autocannons are great, hydras would be fairly cheap, but manticores are boss (against anyone, really).

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    Leman Russ Eradicator ignores cover saves and most of their armor saves.

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    The hydra is the best thing you can bring, i have two of them and at only 75 pts they will cause way more dammage than that. auto cannon squads would be useful as well tho maby not quite as cost effective as the hydras. I m on a bit of a vendetta gunship kick lately tho i cant say i have fought any dark eldar with my gunships as ive only had them for about two weeks.

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    You don't need Hydras. Here's a 1750 all-comers list that just shreds Dark Eldar (and Orks, and Grey Knights).

    HQ
    195 Company Command Squad w/4 x Plasma, Fleet Officer, Chimera

    Troops
    155 Veteran Squad w/3 x Melta, Chimera
    155 Veteran Squad w/3 x Melta, Chimera
    125 Platoon Command Squad w/4 x Melta, Chimera
    65 + Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
    65 + Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
    125 Platoon Command Squad w/4 x Melta, Chimera
    65 + Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher, Autocannon
    65 + Infantry Squad w/Grenade Launcher, Autocannon

    Fast Attack
    130 Vendetta Gunship
    130 Vendetta Gunship
    145 Hellhound w/Hull Multi-Melta

    Heavy Support
    165 Leman Russ Demolisher w/Hull Heavy Flamer
    165 Leman Russ Battle Tank w/Hull Lascannon

    Total: 1750

    I didn't design this list specifically to kill Dark Eldar, but it works so well that I've been accused of just that. Almost every unit can down a skimmer, and the Hellhound sweeps up the survivors; denying them their FNP saves.
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