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I'm new to IG and am working my way through the codex. I've played against IG on a number of occassions but only once had an IG opponent use Demo Charges, afterwards finding out that he'd not followed the rules at all. According to the profile they are a range 6" large blast device. So, am I wrong in assuming that these are much more trouble than they're worth? Unless I'm missing something in how they are played, a 2d6 deviation minus a BS3 has me thinking I've got a greater chance of blowing up the soldier who threw the device, fellow Imperial Guardsmen, or dirt, than I ever do of taking down the intended target. The charge could actually drift one-and-a-half times further than my soldier is allowed to throw it! Hell, it could end up three inches behind the guy who chucked it. It seems like its an ever more unpredictable and suicidal tank killer than the sticky bombs were in "Saving Private Ryan". The only guy who should be armed with one is Sgt. Marbo with his BS5.
Am I way off the mark? I hope I am.
Pretty much....but they're guardsmen so who cares. If you manage to huck a demo charge (or three in the case of an SWS) on a squad of marines or terminators you can giggle quite a bit.....of course you have a decent chance of vaporizing your own unit too.
Unpredictable, not overly reliable, but can be useful.
Honestly, I don't feel like I'm playing Guard unless there's at least the chance of friendly fire. Demo charges are useful, fluffy and endlessly entertaining!
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Yeah the odds of blowing up your own squad are actually pretty low. It has a 1/3 chance of scoring a hit, then it needs to drift back enough to hit the squad AND for the scatter to be in exactly the right direction to land back on the squad. It's low odds.
Of course guardsmen /are/ magnetic when it comes to democharges, but from a purely theoryhammer point of view they should do fine.
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Great perspectives. Whats a few Guardsmen if you still manage to take out the target? Worst case situation is the charge drifts over and takes out a chunk of your own men in a nearby squad and misses the target entirely. Strange things happen in the heat and confusion of battle.
As a Daemon Player I once used the changeling against a flamer vet unit with the demolitions upgrade to shoot their own vendetta they just disembarked from. Great fun. My Elysians use SWS with 3 democharges. If you are going to suicide a unit you might as well throw 3 democharges to make sure of your target. As for scatter my SWS has to deepstrike too giving an extra element of risk. No guts no glory!
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I love my demo charges, in the old book it said that after they throw their charges you can replace the model with a lasgunner or remove him from the table. So i modelled mine up as suicide bombers with the HWT missile launcher triggers in one hand, the running legs from the infantry box, screaming helmetless head and an unhealthy load of grenades, meltabombs and fuel tanks.
Like Korona said the chances of blowing yourself up arent that huge, and if you're like Mad Cat and take a SWS with 3 you can afford to have one blow up your own squad, just have one or two land on the enemy. Once that SWS has thrown their charges who cares what happens to them.
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I love the "who cares about them" attitude. May sound hard to believe but as a 'nid player I've always prided myself on winning with as low a body count on my side as was necessary. If I lose whole squads to mistakes on my part it bothers me for days. Takes a bit of mental adjusting to look at units, particularly Troops choice units, as expendable to that level. I know, I know, and I'm a 'nid player. It's all biomass in the end.
As I experiment with list building in IG, the opposite seems to be holding true. I find myself tinkering around a lot more with Troops and Heavy Support than I ever do with 'nids, and now consider my Elites as the expendable specific-function units, instead of the other way around. I may be completely off the mark with that interpretation, and won't really know until I put my army in the field.