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Havent played since 2nd edtion and was thinking of starting up again.Would the following be a good first choise for a new SM army
HQ=1 captain with melta gun/Bolter combi ,Power axe
Elite=1 box of Vets exactly as they appear on the box
Troop 1=1 Standered Space marine Squad ,once again exactly as they appear on the box
Troop 2=1 squad of 10 Space marine Tacs,with the CCW and bolt pistol potion and a melta gun,suard leader with Power weapon and plasma pistol. (using the bloodclaw Box),these go in the Land raider
Fast attack=5 SM bikes,a Pw and plama pistol,1 plasma gun and 1 melta gun,with a Attack bike attached (multi-melta upgrade)
Heavy=1 Land raider Crusader (not sure if i should get a standered land raider for large number of tank destroying weapons)
Thats it really,some scouts,Terms and a HW squad would probly be added at a later date.
This would be a Codex chapter as I have always loved the White panther Chapter,unless of course they now have rules???
You're gonna make your HQ and Vets walk? I'd put them in the landraider before a 10-strong squad of tacticals.
If you're going to put CC weapons in your tac squads, that's a special trait. You need to come up with a disadvantage, and then some fluff to explain why your White Panthers have those traits.
It seems like an okay starting list, though a Land Raider in a small army is a little off-kilter in my mind. But sometimes they can rule the table because the opponent doesn't think he's going to see a LR in a smaller game--hee hee.
Anyway, play a few games with stand-in models if you have to (or borrow a friend's) and decide if you like your choices before you go spend the big bucks!
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well the next step I was planing was a Razor back squad and a heavy weapons squad,make the 5 sm troops part of the Devs and use the razor back as the transport for the Captain and vets,I'm planing on useing the vets as the Captains Honour gaurds any way.I wanted to get the LR first as I didnt want an all Infantry army.
Stay away from Rhinos and Razorbacks, they arent great.
If your actually going out to buy models your money is better spent elsewhere. Speeders, dreads and a whirlwind not to mention assault marines would be my first choices to upgrade what you have.
Also, Drop pods. You need to make a drop pod model as they arent sold in stores yet. You could buy one from forgeworld but I believe they are around 100$.
Last but not least, how many points are you playing?
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Efficiency VS Point Cost VS Ease Of Use - Your best bets:
1) Chaplain led Assault squad - 2 plasma pistols, powerfisted sergeant
2) 8 man Devastator squad - 4 missile launchers
3) Land Speeder Tornado - HB + AC
Well i wasnt planing on dropping them from pods actaully.Was going to go for Rhinos with armour plating.
About 1500 points.I hear thats a good size for this edition.
Personally, i don't really like the vets. Only bc i am a Black Templar player, i would just have a bunch of reg. guys, but i might look into the vet. squad later bc three power weapons would be helpful...especially all in one squad. But if you have too, attach the commander to the squad that goes inside the LRC. And an iron halo, would be better, and replace the bolter/melta w/ plasma pistol, that way he has an extra attack. Good Luck!
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I thought razorbacks are great for ferrying dev-squads around?Originally posted by Chaosbrynn@Dec 7 2004, 21:54
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also "as on the box" is not a good idea, since for covers: appearance >>>> usefulness/legalness
vets are really good espicially in the 4th edtion, they have made them better and put a lot more empshis on them. plus if u ever play against space wolves u will appriciate how much 3 power weapons does in a squad, i soy go for the vets.
and in a 1500pt battle its not that great to spend ur pts on LR's if u have a large amount of pts in things like vets. so take some rhinos, but safty in numbers.
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I suppose i could buy a Rhino,a razor back Squad with the money then buy a dev squad