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i was just wondering whether anyone thinks the venerable dreadnought is worth the extra points over the traditional dread? and also whether ppl have actually used the ven dread and been sucessful with it.
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I've had lots and lots of success with him, but until they even out his points cost, i've been using a normal dread, which lets me pick up another IC to leash my squads and give them more hitting power.
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It some cases it is, in some cases it isn't. Versus many enemies, the Venerable Upgrade will only delay the inevitable, if even that. However, it does make your Dreadnought a little more reliable, and in a situation where you have the points to spare and the Dreadnought is an important part of your strategy, it can be good.
I take the upgrade since I rely on my Dreadnought to fill in the powerful ranged strikes the Black Templars lack. I need Hard to Kill(The re-rolling damage ability) to stay alive; it's my only one, since my other Elites choices are going to be taken up by Terminators and a Techmarine. However, my Dreadnought is usually long range, so it's Hard to Kill ability doesn't get tested too much.
However, if he is there to roll with the rest of your army and isn't too crucial to your survival, I would save the points and spend them on other units that can threaten the opponent. This way, you aren't putting all your eggs in one basket.
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I find the dread upgrade to be a waste, if your enemy wants to take it down, they will. Your dread is at least going to be shaken which means its probily going to be hit next turn.
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Got to say that a TL Lascannon on a Tank Hunter Dread is scary.
Add in the missile launcher and he is very scary.
Aside from that I doubt I would pay for it. If your oponent wants him dead, Venerable wont save him. But it may give you a second shot with the above mentioned loadout. Fortunatelly a TL str 10 shot backed up by a str 9 shot has a good chance of counting.
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If you're SW, the VenDread surely is useful as an HQ.
As elite it's useless, why should you spend those points on an elite slot, when you can spend them on one of your compulsory HQ slots?
You see my point?
Trust me the venrable is still very useful although i'm not sure that the furious assault skill is worth anything i would probably take tank hunter even if it's armed with an assault cannon and a power fist.
well for the 40 pts you can make your dread a venerable antitank\anti troop walking vehicle all you need is the missles and trank hunter...
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i like Ven. for two reasons.
1. fluff. imo dreads are supposed to be tuff, and ven lets them be (at least a lil more..)
2. performance. rerolling damage if very nice. that combined with wise usage of the dread (ie not placing him in too much harms way), means that your investment will more likely pay you back.