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    As I'm not terribly familiar with rules for inducting IG/SM into DH and WH armies, do the inducted troops count as the one allied contingent you are allowed (friend took my codexes so can't go reading)?

    I would suspect not, as a DH army with inducted Guard and WH allies would be rather omnipowerful.

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    No, you cannot have a base DH army, with inducted IG/SM, and then ally WH into it (and vice versa for base WH).

    There IS a way to combine both DH and WH with a non-Inquisitional army: If the base army is IG or SM, you can ally in both WH and DH allies, but neither of the Inquisitional armies is allowed to use any inducted IG or SM from their respective army lists, ie if you have an IG or SM army, with DH and WH allies, you cannot use any of the IG or SM units listed in the DH and WH codex as part of your DH or WH forces. No combining IG, SM, DH, and WH.

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    Erk, obviously some confusion. I meant IG/SM as "Imperial Guard or Space Marines". But I assume the same still holds true? I also thought your army could only include one allied force, or is it actually legal to take choices from both DH and WH in an IG or SM army?
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    I also thought your army could only include one allied force
    If by "your army" you&#39;re referring to Daemonhunters, then yes, we can only include ONE allied force. So we can use either IG, SM, or WH in our army, if DH is the base force. Same works for a base WH army, they can take ONE ally out of IG, SM, or DH.

    or is it actually legal to take choices from both DH and WH in an IG or SM army?
    That&#39;s a completely different question from the above line. If your base army is IG or SM, you can take BOTH DH and WH as allies. This is the ONLY situation where you can have more than one Ally.

    ANY time you use WH or DH as allies to another army, you cannot use the IG/SM listed in the DH and WH army books as part of their force. For example, in the DH codex, it allows you to take inducted IG or SM. If this particular DH force is acting as an ally to another army, then they cannot use those inducted IG or SM choices in the DH codex, just the pure-Daemonhunters units as allies.

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    So what you&#39;re saying is that if I had imperial guard, I couldn&#39;t induct dh stormtroopers, and if I had sm, I couldn&#39;t have gray knights?

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    So what you&#39;re saying is that if I had imperial guard, I couldn&#39;t induct dh stormtroopers, and if I had sm, I couldn&#39;t have gray knights?
    Calling GK space marines is the only way possible to make them cry......

    Anyway yes you can induct GK, they arent SM, arent available to SM without inducting them so ergo you can use them. You can also induct inq. stormtroopers because they arent listed in the box on pg. 30-31, entitled &#39;By the authority of the immortal emporer of mankind.....&#39;
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    So what you&#39;re saying is that if I had imperial guard, I couldn&#39;t induct dh stormtroopers, and if I had sm, I couldn&#39;t have gray knights?
    I, in fact, said neither of those things.

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    Oh, my apologies, I&#39;m sort of new to the game, but that isn&#39;t an excuse for my poor reading comprehension. Anyway, I just wanted to be sure my space marines army could have gray knights in it.

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    Oh, my apologies, I&#39;m sort of new to the game, but that isn&#39;t an excuse for my poor reading comprehension. Anyway, I just wanted to be sure my space marines army could have gray knights in it.
    No problem. And yes, they can take Grey Knights.

    If you notice in the DH codex, you can induct some IG or SM units into your force. You cannot do this if you&#39;re using DH as an ally to another force. So if you have an SM army, with DH allies, you cannot ALSO use the inducted IG or SM choices in the DH Codex. Thats all I was saying, sorry if I was unclear.

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