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I need a second opinion... or perhaps a few more
i'm making up a squad of RuffRiders, the catch is, they're not going to be on horses/bikes...
instead they're going to have jump packs (SM backpacks).
however, i'm debating in my mind what weapons i should give.
Hunting Lances and LasPistols
Lasguns and Meltabombs
personally i think Lances would help out my army better... of course som fast anti tank would be nice...
however, i'm worried that Cadians with jumppacks and big spears (high elf plastic spears) would look.... odd....
i'm sorry i don't have any pics, but you'll have to use your imagination
Cadian Plastics, with SM backpacks.
w/ either Lasguns or High Elf Spears...
a) be more effective in a primarly shooty IG army?
b) look better in a Cadian themed army?
thanks for your input.
Originally posted by BoxANT+Jan 29 2005, 022--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BoxANT @ Jan 29 2005, 022)</div><div class='quotemain'>the catch is, they're not going to be on horses/bikes...[snapback]315190[/snapback][/b]
In which case they're not Rough Riders, on account of not riding anything.Why would the Quartermasters have jump-packs? They're sacred technology, rare enough as it is. Giving them to Imperial Guard would write off serious amounts of hardware. Which the Imperium isn't wasteful enough to do.Originally posted by BoxANT@Jan 29 2005, 022
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Why should it make any difference? You're effectively claiming they're "counts as" Rough Riders, so they'd go well in an army in which Rough Riders go well.
But the whole idea... I don't like it.
well thanks for not answering my question
we all have our own opinions.
i understand that these are not RuffRiders in the sense they ride horses, they have jump packs instead. however, rule wise they'll play the same as RR.
again i'm not asking "do you like the idea of guardsmen w/ jumpacks counting as RR"
instead i'm asking which would be better from a tactical/aesthetic sense.
Spears would be interesting... hark back to Custodians, which would be quite a weird look (although they wouldn't have the plumed helmets). But if you intend to use them in a primarily shooty army, I recommend them having lasguns, as you seem to want to use them as mobile firebases (that's the way it seems to come across).
Unfortunately, since they're still cavalry and not jump infantry (they're just modelled as jump infantry), they wouldn't be very mobile outside of an assault. Go with the lances.
Originally posted by Xerxes@Jan 28 2005, 19:54
Spears would be interesting... hark back to Custodians, which would be quite a weird look (although they wouldn't have the plumed helmets). But if you intend to use them in a primarily shooty army, I recommend them having lasguns, as you seem to want to use them as mobile firebases (that's the way it seems to come across).[snapback]315229[/snapback]
well i'm looking at them in two ways.
mobile anti tank (meltabombs)
mobile counter charge (lances)
my army doesn't have any CC units, so a counter charge could catch my opponent off guard
however, my 1850 list's anti tanks is only has 3 lascannons 3 missle launchers and 6 meltaguns... so i could use a lil more anti tanks
i'm thinking of just making up 2 squads
10 lasrifle meltabombers and 8 lancers lol
Your Army should already have enough anti-tank, so I think that that the counter-attack is more constructive add on.
I don't think they would look to odd......
Personally I though that the Imperium would give IG mountain bikes. I personally love Mountain biking, so that is how I would do it. I don't like the Horses either.
"A love for tradition has never weakened a nation, indeed it has strengthened nations in their hour of peril."
Sir Winston Churchil
Originally posted by Diggums Hammer@Jan 28 2005, 21:27
Personally I though that the Imperium would give IG mountain bikes. I personally love Mountain biking, so that is how I would do it. I don't like the Horses either.[snapback]315268[/snapback]
you figure out a way to make cheap ruffriders on bikes, and i'm there!
but the only way i can think of is to basically use a scout bike, and i'm not rich enough to afford 10 of those
yeah i'm going w/ the lances.
but i'm gonna take 10 SM backpacks and put them on normal guys if i wanna try out non lance RR.
I really like the Biker conversions on the GW site, but will never invest $80 into a couple biker models or whatever their rediculous kit cost.
I thought about using lego bikes, but I dont have any of those either.
As to why the Imperial Guard, with the technology and production means to support mechanized armies and armored companies does not have Military Police on bikes, I will never know.
I am the Aquila-Guerilla!
The conversion corner bikes can be made at a third of the cost they list on GW mailorder... they use a complete SM bike just for the handlebars, plastic missiles for the front forks, a pintle mount for the back axle, etc. Since they sell the complete kit they include ALL of the sprues you will need. The economical converter would just buy the reaver jetbikes and build everything else from scratch and bits they already have.
Handlebars - plastic rod.
Front fork - carved sprue or square/round plastic rod.
Back suspension - carved sprue or plastic card or rod etc.
Headlight - cadian radio backpack in bitzbox
Driver - bitzbox
If you collect Cadians you should only have to order the heavy weapon wheels and the rever jetbikes.