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OK I have just under 1000 Pts of IG.
I have a command squad, Techpriest, Infantry platoon, Armoured Fist Squad and Leman Russ Battle Tank. Altogether it is 995 Pts, I don't currently have time to write the whole army list out, but i will post it up, from what I have would you guys say its a strong army or could you suggest anything to bolster my forces and make them harder to kill?
It's hard to suggest harder units without knowing how you like to use your units, what doctrines, are you using an armoured company, and who does the techpriest ride with or what do you use him for(eg. he stands behind the leman and fixes it when damaged)
But from a look at the posted units, every army has a leman as they're a good solid tank, i personaly prefer a demolisher, the model looks cool and the sponsoon weapons are better. The armoured fist squad is good to, but what are you going top use as an assualt buffer (fodder), and what's going to counter attack? Sorry for posting so many questions, but without an army list, it's hard to suggest improvement / additions.
OK the 92nd Urban Hammers Points List is as follows:
HSO-Carapace Armour, Macharian Cross, Master-Crafted Laspistol, Medallion Crimson, Melta Bombs, Refractor Field, Trademark Item.
4 x Guardsmen: 3 Lasguns, 1 laspistol + CC Weapon, 1 Master-Vox
Squad Krak Grenades.
HQ TOTAL = 185 POINTS
Techpriest Enginseer-Power Axe, Carapace Armour, Master-Crafted Axe, Melta Bombs, Refractor Field.
ELITES TOTAL = 90 POINTS
Junior Officer-Power Fist, Carapace Armour, Melta Bombs, Refractor Field, Trademark Item.
4 x Guardsmen: 4 Lasguns, 1 Vox-Caster
Sergeant, 9 x Guardsmen: 1 Grenade Launcher, 1 Vox-Caster, 8 Lasguns
Sergeant, 9 x Guardsmen: 1 Flamer, 1 Vox-Caster, 8 Lasguns
TROOPS 1 TOTAL = 254 POINTS
Veteran Sergeant-Carapace Armour, Honorifica Imperialis, Melta Bombs, Medaliion Crimson.
9 x Guardsmen: 1 Missile Launcher, 1 Flamer, 1 Vox-Caster, 7 Lasguns.
Squad Krak Grenades
Chimera APC-Multi laser, Hull Mounted heavy Bolter, Extra Armour, Hunter-Killer Missile, Pintle Heavy Stubber, Rough Terrain Modification, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Track Guards.
TROOPS 2 TOTAL = 293 POINTS
Leman Russ Battle Tank-Hull lascannon, Extra Armour, Smoke Launchers, Track Guards.
HEAVY SUPPORT TOATL = 173 POINTS
TOTAL ARMY = 995 POINTS
Can anyone suggest anything that would help make my army harder to kill or more endurable on the battlefield i.e. more troops to throw at them.....
40 guardsmen in a 1000pt game is not enough. 1 squad based heavy weapon is not enough. Lose the techpreist unless you want him for fluff-he's too many points.
You have loaded too many points out in wargear and vehicle upgrades. Cut the fat from your officers, vet sgt and vehicles. There is no point in master crafting a las pistol.
I really don't think that this list is competitive at 1000pts. You would be better off cutting your list down to 750pts.
You will have to cut some points anyway to get MORE TROOPS with MORE HEAVY WEAPONS.
You are seriously out manned and out gunned.
It's worth a krak!
Ditch the techpriest. This will open up more points for infantry. Also IG HQ's aren't really meant to be upfront in the heat of battle therefore i would cut down on some of the wargear you got for your HSO. This also will open up more points for infantry. Maybe if in the future you decide to make a larger army add som lascannons to your infantry squads.
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Well since I'm aiming for a 1500 point army I have plenty of points to spend anyway don't I, and the only reason my guys are loaded with so much wargear is TO KEEP THEM ALIVE. Guardsmen are fragile, everyone klnows that, anyone who can stay alive through it all is a dam good representative of my army.
So, no offence, but I don't appreciate your critism!
Since its an "urban army" and you dont seem to want more people, you should probably look into some doctrines:
Carapace armour: you havent got a lot men, this will keep them alive longer.
Die-hards: helps with morale.
As has already been mentioned, some heavy weapons would be good, I'd consider taking a anti tank support squad with lascannons and then adding heavy bolters and missile launchers to your regular squads.
Also, asuming you're still against getting more men, a hellhound would be good for keeping your men from getting assaulted, sentinels are good in this role too. Plus, both these units can support your armoured fist squad if it has to take any objectives and so on.
Adding a basilisk or another russ (doesnt really matter which one) would be cool, but as several people have already said.. get more men!
Ghost22: "So, no offence, but I don't appreciate your critism!" <-- its all constructive, nobody is saying "it sucks" people are giving you good advice here.
Originally Posted by Karmoon
Ghost, you must be 1 unhappy imp guard player. Your men are bound 2 be killed, iys the imp guard way after all. Sombody who gets angry when a squad is decimated by marines will not have NE fun playing imp guard. INFANTRY WILL BE DECIMATED, its a fact... any seasoned guard commander will have the perfect solution.... TAKE AS MANY GUARDSMAN AS U CAN! thats the imp guard way!
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Private: Sir... was that even possible?
Officer: I think i'm going to kill myself now... private, fetch a commisar!
Ow. That really hurt man. that really did. I know what you where talking about. IG infantry and not real life infantry, but just seeing that hurt, not to make you feel bad or anything but ow.Originally posted by Gordossvaa@Mar 1 2005, 19:41
INFANTRY WILL BE DECIMATED, its a fact...[snapback]341896[/snapback]
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my personal opinion is to get 2 boxes of cadians/catachans whichever you prefer, one of the h. weapon squad boxes and 1 one heavy weapon box. more infantry.
after that i would get some conscripts or a basalisk. probbably the latter.
i played a 1,500 point game once and i had 40 infantry, 40 conscripts, a armoured fist 15 SoB, and a Vanquisher. won it.
thats my advice sir!
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