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Looking towards the FW Elysian Drop Troop army with their Valkirie/Vulture support I can't help but draw parallels to the US Marines.
So I wondered if anyone had ever done or seen an assault carrier like the Wasp class used by the corp. for either IG or SM's?
I was thinking a large show piece sized model similar to an aircraft carrier but with some kind of enclosed flight deck as it's job would be to deploy from an Imperial Navy ship in orbit into the airspace above the battlefield (or close by) and then serve as a platform for the Valkiries and Vultures to operate from (as I don't think they are capable of moving down themselves from orbit).
I think it should be fairly ship like in shape and have an 'island' structure but be dominated by launch bays.
What does everyone think? And can you get aircraft carrier models big enough to serve as a starting point for the conversion (or can anyone suggest a good starting point?)
Elysians compaired to Marines?? This is not right mate, Elysians are a mix of 2 conventional roles:
Paratroops (I think you call them Airborne)
Air mobile (I think you call them Air Cav)
Whilst Marines may be trained in parachuting in some cases, Marines are specifically for vessl defence and amphibious landing
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You are absolutely right!!! (holds head in hands....) :wacko:
Yeah, very good point - the IG drop troops are like the 82nd Airborne (an army unit) or as you say an air cav unit and the Marines are (why didn't I think this...) Marines!
The army operate from land bases and the Marines use ships at sea (or air in this case).
Guess I just want to build a hunking great conversion and it's clouding my judgement :blush:
Thanks for bringing me to my senses
You could stille make a large "deployment craft".
The elysians have grav chutes so they can swoop in.. for me it doesnt make sense to have the chutes if they just jump out of their Valkyries, they could use ropes for that.
It would be cool with a large craft that can fly to grav chute distance and then deploy an entire platoon plus 3 sentinels and maybe a mortar team.
Its not a lander, since it never touces down, I'm imagining a flying shoebox (more or less) with doors for jumping out off along both sides, a larger hatch in the back for sentinels. The interior would be like a landing bay.. just squads of drop troopers instead of planes.
It might also serve as a sort of "field command post" that can relay information to the troops below, sort of like the command helicopters in Blackhawk Down.
I dont imagine it'll be carrying a lot of guns, maybe a small air to surface bombardment gun and a few anti aircraft guns.
Sinde it cant defend itself, it could also serve as a refueling station for imperial fighters.. although they probably run out of ammo before they run out of fuel.
As for creating the actual model... I have no idea.
Originally Posted by Karmoon
I think you still have a viable idea here.
I think I would start out by watching Battlestar Galactica on the SciFi network. That should give you some good ideas about the bay you want to construct. Think a creamy white box like shape with a grey/black floor with lots of warning paint and also some tie down points for the aircraft. There would be lots of pipes and conduits running here and there up and down the walls as well as on any ceiling structure you were going to make. Kind of like a shadow box diorama.
You should be looking at making the ceiling at least 6 man lengths high. That will give you enough room to have those Valkaries and Vultures VTOL room to move from here to there. If you have a ceiling, you might want to think about lighting inside the diorama because its gonna get pretty dark in there. In the model doll house section of your hobby store (or craft store if the hobby store doesn't carry all the hobbies) you can usually find scale replicas of interior lighting fixtures. They typically run off of battery power but sometimes you can find a transformer and plug it into the wall. This can also give you lights in the floor and wall to simulate other lights. If you're real tricky, you can even add formation and interior lights to your parked aircraft as if they were waiting for the troops to embark.
If your diorama is not going to have a ceiling (which I really don't recommend because the people looking at the diorama want to see all the angles) you probably don't need to mess with all the lighting and just go for the good photo oppportunity with ambient light, but hey, who knows, you might do the lighting anyway.
I can see two or three aircraft parked on the pad with troops waiting to embark, checking gear and maybe even laying around waiting. Even in the 41st century, it is "Hurry up and Wait" in the military. You would also want to add other ground crew types. In the 41st century you'd need servitors for that job. Plus maybe the odd servo skull checking out the troops or just ferrying a message to a far off part of the ship. I don't think your troops would be in perfect formation waiting, but then if they are Mordians, they might.
Typically in the really sweet dioramas I see in the modeling magazine I get (Fine Scale Modeller) the builders usually place thier name somewhere and add something funny or out of place so that unless you are reallly looking closely, you wouldn't notice it. It helps people to remember that piece of art more than if they just saw a random model.
It sounds like an interesting project. If I wasn't poor and busy, I think I would work on one too. Good Luck.
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