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i have been looking through the old warhammer "codex imperialis" from like 1993, and it has alot of cool stuff in it, lots of background information and tells alot about some of the past groups of warhammer 40k. as i was looking through it i came upon the space marine part and it showed a list of the 20 founding chapters, and i was all cool, some more background stuff. well i noticed that out of the 20 2 were missing. numbers 2 and 11 said that they have been "Deleted from Imperial records". and being the curious person that i am wanted to find out as much as possible about the 2 groups. if anyone has an background info and any info on them at all, please tell me.
There has been no information whatsoever concerning the 2nd and 11th chapters. Games Workshop has kept very hush hush about this in the fluff.
It probably won't ever be resolved, either; this was modelled after 2 of the roman legions who were disbanded. In an effort to stay true to the roman influence, GW has decided to leave this as one of the great unsolved mysteries of the wh40k universe.
And just so you know, neither of them are the grey nights. A lot of dumbasses think that they are the grey knights and deathwatch but the grey knights are the 666th chapter and the deathwatch aren't really a chapter per se, IIRC.
yes i too at one time thought that they were one of the 2 chapters, then i read more into the grayknights stuff and found out for myself that they werenâ€™t, well that kinda sucks that noone will ever know, hmm, well too bad .
the ones iknow...
thats all that i know of the original chaptors so if there is 20, there are 5 missing from this list.
i think maybe legion of the damned MAYBE from the 2 missing chaptors
If I Remember Correctly
The Legion of the Damned is what remains of the Fire Hawks, who are descended from the Ultramarines. If they were merely lost in the warp their chapter would still have its entry, I think.
luna wolves (Black Legion)
9 loyal+9 traitor+2 missing =20
thanks for clearing that up Gutzdreg
20 Founding LEGIONS.
They were legions at the time, and ONLY after the Heresy were they cut down to Chapter size.
"It fits like clothes made out of wasps!"
true vindkall so true