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Yesterday I decided to be awkward and asked the GW Manager if he had any Griffons left, he said there was and asked if I wanted it then. I said yeah- I've been after one ever since I started playing 40k, when they stopped making them.
Long story short, I'm glad I was awkward. The kit was amazing- much better than the latest ones with the crap transfers. The old cadian crewmen are good as well; I may try and get some to use as veterans hehe.
Anyway, I was wondering (and this is probably a common question) but just generally, out of looks, range, whatever- which is your preferred IG Artillery unit?
Imperial XIV Corps:
22nd Emperor's Rangers- 0%
291st Catachan- 0%
2nd Naval Regiment- 0%
there's not much competition, seriously. the Griffon is a great lil arty tank, and does well aginst ork/nid, but considering most people play MEQ...
and the fact that the bassie can fire up to 240"... gotta love that.
the basalisk is a no brainer for IG, there's not many reasons not to take it. it's very good for it's price (if used correctly, ie. not put in open, kept off to the side).
What I hate is that while 240" sounds great it's practically never ever used, in fact neither is anything else > 48 " considering standard table size is 48"x72"
The main problem with the basilisk versus say a mortar or in this case the griffon tank is the stupid minimum range problem. That WILL come up as any player with a slice of grey matter will know well enough to get those marines up 20" or so near the middle of the table where you're not in range for indirect fire anywhere.
As an upside, the basilisk does make a great tank killer with it's improved strength and the ordinance rolls on penetration, but the hitting is still very unlikely.
As for a griffon....yeah I was sort of mad that they took the # of tanks in the guard army down because that's what alot of people play guard for, but I was really made about the exterminator more than the griffon. As for a mobile mortar....why?
Karnov let all of us fulfil our repressed dreams of being a fat Russian man running around in the great outdoors and getting shot at by weird stone heads and crap. You didn't have a repressed fantasy about doing such marvelous things? Well, I don't believe you . . . [djpretzel]
Actually, the minimum range is 36". And, though this stinks, you can still use it for herding purposes, if you want to keep your opponenets away form/moving towards something. Also, I'd imagine that two bassies set in opposite corners would nuetralize this drawback.Originally Posted by greymeisterBecause mortars are cool.As for a mobile mortar....why?
He wasn't saying the minimum range was 48, he was saying that you won't fire much farther than 48 usually anyway.
But when we do play a psycho's game at the club (3 table tenis tables wide!) everyone wants a basilisk on their side.
... only triumph could turn pooing his pants into a good thing..
I tend towards using a griffon, myself. It's a favorite part of my ork list (they call it the Groundpounda) and I normally back it up with three kanz and a unit of lobbaz. The griffon costs 50 points less then a bassie with Indirect Fire, which lets me squeeze in a twin-linked rokkit buggie that I can use to pop the higher armour stuff.
As for using it against MEQ... it just must be the ork player in me, but the occasional death I get from the griffon is always worth it for me. Sure, it might not happen EVERY time, but when it does, it sure does bring a grin to your face.
Besides, I've got choppas and burnas to deal with the armour when they get up close. *nods* So, defiantly the griffon.
Also, I see bassie pop up quite often in ork lists, so I can claim some originality in my list. Which is always a good thing.
"Some days you're the Mekboy building the kannon, the rest you're the grot being blown up by it."
- Quote attributed to Sorkrates, before his much mourned death due to ingestion of Hemsquig Juice.
"Dis iz my choppa, and herez me gun. Dat's for killin' and so'z dis one!"
- Bloodaxe Kommando Warchant
what are you talking about? i use it all the time when i'm helping my friends who are playing at another tableOriginally Posted by greymeister
This is where you move your bassie so it can shoot directly but still keep more than 50% of it hidden so its an obscurred target. Pretty survivable like that and no minimum range.Originally Posted by Tomjoad
another thing you can do to deal with people trying to get under the bassies minimum range is to place a demolisher near the bassie. so that if they get too close... then you bring the Demolisher cannon to bear
have the Demo. obscured of course.