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    Worst space marine unit

    I was just wondering what all the space marines plays think is the worst space marines unit?

    I think that the vindicator is probably one of the worst tanks in the game it has crap range toped up by even crapper amour it sames almost useless unless you agaist some kind of hopeless assault army

    Any way that’s my worst unit for space marines what’s yours??

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    I would say none of the units are worse because they al have there strong and weak points, you just need to know these points and make use of them.

    the vindicator is good but you need to use cover proberly making sure it don´t get shot. the demolisher cannon is the strongers ordanace weapon in the game.
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    scouts with shotguns

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    Worse space marine units or units that would not normally be used competitively:

    - Scouts with shotguns
    - Landspeeder Tornado with multi melta and heavy flamer
    - Veteran space marines
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    Interesting you said Veterans - As a DA player I've never looked into them much as I can't use 'em but I though they were a good assault unit.

    Why do they suck?

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    Veterans are Marines with a Skill, furious charge ect (your choice) for slightly more cost than Tactical Marines. They can have Terminator Honours but this increses thier cost to more than GK's.

    Plus thier assault weapon options cost a bomb.

    Vindicators rule, pop out from cover and destroy whatever they shoot at. They take skill but are well worth the risks.
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    I think veteran squads are the worst. Sure ther good, if not great, in close-combat but they cost loads. Not to mention when you have to soup the up with tonnes of wargear and cc weapons because other wise they're useless... <_<
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    I fail to see how Veterans are a bad unit.

    A skill thats in the units point cost? I don't see how thats a bad thing. Ok, so they are basically just normal marines. But depending on the way you make your list, thats 30 extra blokies that have a special skill.

    And looking at my codex, they get to exchange their bolters for Chainsword and Pistol for free, Again, not a bad thing, even more so if you pair it with Furious Charge.

    As for the question. Scout with Shotguns do sound kinda useless, and to be quite honest, Ive never come across anyone who has used them in their army.
    I would have to say though that there really isn't a "worst" SM unit, just ones with strenghs and weakness's.
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    I can see a use for Scouts with shotguns. It goes like this:

    1. Set up an ambush for a nasty unit you want to tie up, like a Killa Kan or a Carnifex.

    2. Engage said nasty unit in close combat.

    3. Trust the dice.

    In short, use them in the same manner as Grots or Conscripts. :p

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    ok what exactly does that have to do with the shotgun part? You can do that with *normal* scouts.

    The point is not to find ways to use horrible units, its about units being dramatically worse than other choices. Again, you could do that with scouts with CCW/BP and achieve more. Sconscripts cost 4pts, using marines as grots or conscripts is just absurd Im sorry

    Definatly the worst units have to be Scouts with shotguns and scoutbikes. Yes Im sure people will whine and say how useful scout bikes are, but I have yet to see them be used in any useful capacity .. Again COMPARED to other unit choices
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