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    What you can and cant include in allied IG, SOB army?

    I've just recently started my newest project for WH40k I'm currently working on
    a half sisters of battle with half IG as allies. And I know you cant ally SoB with marines
    so I'm working on a shock force and heres what I have so far.


    ------------------------ Questions to consider----------------
    1.) what are squad rules and where do i find them on what I can include?

    2.) when it says adeptis sororitas what units does it exclude in allying?

    3.) what are good combinations allying battle sisters with IG?
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    1 Inquisitor Lord with retinue and land raider transport
    2 squads of battle sisters with transports
    1 squad of seraphym


    for IG I have just recently aquired...

    IG Command Section including JR officers and LT's

    Armoured Fists
    Cadian Infantry
    Karskin Rangers (to be used as WH Shock Troops)

    1 Leman Russ Battle Tank

    ------And Also-----------------------------------------------

    1.) What kind of tactics do I want to use

    3.) How do I pick wargear to benifit both armies?

    4.) Any other info would be usefull....

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    1.) what are squad rules and where do i find them on what I can include?
    Do you mean what are the rules for the squads in IG Platoons? If so, check Codex: Imperial Guard, under the Platoon entry. You need to own the IG codex AND the WH codex to run a WH/IG force - same with any other allied combination, you need both codecies to do it!

    2.) when it says adeptis sororitas what units does it exclude in allying?
    If your base army is WH, all of the units in the WH army list (including all Sororitas units) are LEGAL for the army. You can ONLY take IG units listed on page 26 of the WH codex, in the lefthand box. No Doctrines are allowed for the IG forces in this situation

    If your base army is IG, you may use ANYTHING in the IG codex. Doctrines ARE allowed here. But you can only include a very specific NUMBER and TYPE of WH units - see Codex: Witch Hunters, page 25 for a list of what and how many are allowed. Sororitas ARE allowed, but again, within the rules presented in the box on page 25 of Codex: WH.

    3.) what are good combinations allying battle sisters with IG?
    You need to be clear on which army is your base army, as the rules vary.

    If your base army will be WH, then I'd suggest using Armored Fist squads for long-ranged and mobile firepower. Platoons are good for extra bodies. A Leman Russ is always handy, but requires two IG Troops choices to be present first.

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    I am currently using IG as base army. Any recomendations?
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    You only are allowed ONE Fast Attack slot from an allied force, so I'd suggest using Seraphim as that FA choice. Just a personal preference, but they make great mobile anti-armor and can tear up in combat against light or medium infantry.

    Sadly, you aren't allowed any Heavy Support choices, so no Exorcists!

    If you feel the need to have an assassin, you MUST have an Inquisitor Lord as well (one HQ and one Elite slot, all Assassin types require an Inquisitor or better, so you're stuck with the HQ version of the Inquisitor). But that gets expensive for not much kick (imo).

    An Adeptus Sororitas Hero (preferrably the Canoness), along with a bodyguard of Celestians, only occupies a single slot (HQ). They make a great combat unit - they can be given bolt pistol/ccw for free, and can be mounted in either a Rhino or Immolater!

    If you want better advice on specific WH units and strategies than I can give you, head over to the Witch Hunters forum and ask them about it.

    Hope that helped!

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    Sure, can do. I'll post this in the WH forum... For a few of your statements
    yes I do own both rule books and the BGB for 40k.

    I'm also using an inquisitor lord as my HQ for my army, I will be giving him wargear
    so he'll be able to survive a little bit longer during the game. Equipment I'm involving
    is a Land Raider transport and a combat rentinue.


    But as to the force chart, if I use the Inquisitor Lord as a HQ for my WH unit
    I'll be taking up one HQ choice in my full force chart? Or do each forces get
    their own force chart?
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    But as to the force chart, if I use the Inquisitor Lord as a HQ for my WH unit
    I'll be taking up one HQ choice in my full force chart? Or do each forces get
    their own force chart?
    One FOC for the entire army, including the allies. So if you take an Inquisitor Lord, you can only have one IG HQ unit. Similarly, if you take one WH Elite WH choice, you can only fit in two more IG Elite choices (and so on).

    And remember, since IG is your base army, you need an IG HQ & two IG Troops choices to make this whole thing legal!

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    Sounds like a plan stan.
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    I'd just like to ask what role will the sisters be playing in the army?

    I can see the point of having more fire power but you should be good on anti-tank
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    The Battle Sisters will be providing HQ (inquisitor lord and retinue with land raider transport)
    Seraphym (squad of Ten) two troops choices, celestians mounted in immolator.

    They provide a fire base as well as combat support for having a better bs and ws.
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