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hi, Im just starting the witch hunters army and a few days ago i perchased the inquisitor retenue box, a box of battle sisters and a box of seraphim's. I have a few questions so proceed at your own risk...
1. im not solid on the faith system yet but with this list... upgrading to the veteran supirior and with the seraphim squad i would get 2 faith points right?
2. what is the fluff behind the order of the white rose...? it is probably my fav. color scheme and on page 58 of the codex... are these the only orders because i "might" want to make my own and was wondering if it woul be reasonable.
3. what do u guys/girls think of a color scheme with the amour being snot green and the cloth being white... do u think it would look decent?
4. Are seaphims worth it... they seem cool and look like they are
5. arco flagelents... good right?
6. for the inquisitor... should i just take 1 of every henchmen...?
7. i was thinking of getting another box of battle sisters next... is that a good move?
8. assasins... there sooo cool... but are they worth it... my fav is the culexus assassine.. but he seems to specalized so i might get the callidus. Im probably going to get both and use the culexus against eldar and space marine librarians and the callidus against all others... but are they worth it?
thanks in advance
P.S. ive played 3 games and used inquisitoral storm troopers as my second troop b/c i already have a guard army... but i want just stuff out of the witch hunters codex.
1. Yes that's 2 Faith points. Faith is very cool, you will learn to love it. There's a recent thread with some good suggestions about using faith which I can;t find at the moment...
2. Order of the White Rose.... check the White Dwarf with the battle sister on the cover (UK 293?) that has the fluff you want.
3. Only way to try out a paint scheme is to do a test model. I'm not sure I personally like the idea of green armour, but each to his or her own.
4. Seraphim are expensive but usually make their points value esp when armed with meltabombs and going up against tanks.
5. Arco's will make mincemeat of most squads - as long as you can get theme there. Yes they have an invulnerable save, but it's only 4+ and with them self destructing 1 arco every couple of turns at least, they can wipe out quick. And they are expensive. And don't forget you need a priest.
6. Gear your inquisitor towards plugging a gap in your army. Most people gear them for close combat, with 2 of the henchmen that raise WS (sorry don't have my codex with me and I don't field an inquisitor) and some other stuff. Look at existing army lists, not very many people have one of each henchmen. You can also gear him towards your fluff. Maybe s/he's an out and out psych-hunter or something.
7. Yes Battle sisters are an excellent troop choice, though IST's are a bit cheaper and come in smaller squads and can field more plasma and grenade launchers. But lose out on their 3+ save and Faith.
8. Assasins IMHO are expensive and do not achieve as much as it looks like they should. Maybe I've never played them right!
Hope this helps, good luck building your army.
I have one nit-pick about question 1 and answer 1.
I do not believe you get the additional faith point for upgrading her to a vet.
On page 18 it says....As you can see in the HQ section... it specifically says how many Faith Points she adds based on which one you buy. As it does in the Character description for Battle Sister Squads in the Troops choice. Also in the Dominion Squad in the Fast Attack choice.Certain characters and units are noted as being Faithful and contribute Faith Points to the army's total, as noted in their army list entry
However, it does not specifically say that in the character descriptions for Seraphim and Celestians. Why? Because the whole squad is already faithful and only add that 1 Faith Point. The Character description does not say she adds one all by herself because she was already part of the squad and already contributed her one in the combonation with the rest of the squad.
So, in conclusion, the only advantage to add a Vet to Celestians is access to the Armoury and something nice for the Seraphim in addition to access to the Armoury.
Thank you, and good night! :lol:
Thanks for the help, much appreciated.
I think he was speaking of making his Battle Sister Superior a Veteran Superior. In that case, yes he gets 2 Faith Points if he has her and a Seraphim Squad.Originally Posted by Kiradia
"The sword that takes life gives life."
I took it to mean the vet superior plus the seraphim squad... but eh, atleast he got answers for both.
The six Ordos presented in the codex are the only main orders of the Adepta Sororitas. There is, however, an unspecified number of Ordos Minoris' - the lesser orders, who have split up from their parent Ordos Majoris. I think this is also noted in the 'dex.Originally Posted by Imperial_Might001
So, if you'd want to make an Ordo Minoris, that would be perfectly reasonable. Just try to include a little fluff that connects it to the parent Ordo Majoris.
If you want to have an example, check my order's fluff here.
"Do you want your heretic rare, medium or well done, Lord Inquisitor?"
Ok, lets have a go:
1. Na-ah. The Vet counts as an Imagifier, but does not give you an extra faith point.
2. Order of the White Rose (Sacred Rose): Sisters from this order demonstrate particular cool-headedness, and make good decisions instead of rash ones, calm in the face of danger, and often free of doubt. They pray to Saint Arabella for all of these things.
3. I'm not a big fan of green armour, blue, red, black, or gold seem to work well.
4. I have no expericene in this area, sorry.
5. They'll either do really well, or fluff badly. If they get shot-up you will lose alot of points. But once they are in CC, its good. Its about luck IMO.
6. Shooting. An Inqusitor with Plasma Gunners, Meltagunners, and plasma Cannon, witha plasma pistol is good. Lots of AP 2 to help the Sisters where they are hard pressed for it else where.
7. Yep. You can also use them as Celestians which is another bonus.
8. w00t! Assasins pwn! My Callidus killed a Broadside, Tac Sqaud, 2x Fire Warrior Sqaud, and Space Marine Master in a big battle. Definatley worth it. IMO the Callidus is the best.
Hope that helps
As other posters have said, and to clarify my own reply, assuming that you are upgrading a model from the battle sisters squad to veteran superior, then yes that is 2 points. The Seraphim squad are faithful, regardless of the presence of a VS.Originally Posted by Imperial_Might001
1. seems to be covered...
2.no idea... i just dregged up my own fluff text and didn't worry about tying to a major order...
3. go spartans?
4. so far, my seraphim have suffered horribly. they do good damage (espeically against orcs) but my luck with deep strikes is horrid. For the most part, they're improved accuracy assault marines, with faith, for less points. I can't see them not being worth it except maybe against marines.
5. no idea.
6. the best inquisitor combo i've fielded so far is 3 vet sgt (with nade launchers), 3 acolites with carapace armors and various weapons (next is to try with storm bolters), 2 sages, and a familiar... but that's about all i have minis for right now..
i've seen inquisitors work well with the multi-melta servitors and vet guardsmen to double as basically heavy support.
7. more SOBs are always good, since you need 2 troops choices for most fights anyways...
8. the one assassin i've got the most outta is the Callidus i belive (has the leadership based damage weapon with a flame template and ap1...) 'cause it's murder against orcs... between the assassin and a squad of 8 marines, i killed 9 outta 10 orcs in the opening volley.