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People always seem to be singing the praises of close order drill and i was wondering, why? Maybe its just me but i don't really see anything extraordinarily advantageous about being bunched up (and thus more prone to death my template/ blast markers) to improve the ld i usually pilfer of my officers and initiative that will have minimal impact on how inevitably dead i'm going to be in close combat.
What are your thoughts on this? Does everyone like it because its refreshingly inexpensive (i.e free) compared to many other doctrines?
They shall be my Imperial Guard and they shall know some fear...
well you can't agrue that it's not economical
i personally don't use it for fluff reasons (urban specialists in tight block formation?!?!).
however, it's effective. +1 Ini and +1 Ld (giving Ld9 if you have VetSgt) is nothing to laugh at, especially considering that it's freakin' free.
yes, you have to watch for template weapons (nothing like a frag missle getting 9 hits...).
but if you're really worried about it, then only enter "close order drill" formation when you charge.
Free is very good. With all those expensive and generally unaffective doctorines out there, ( Cyber-enhancement, Chem-inhalers, Hardened Fighters etc. ) COD is a great doctorine.
I have to admit that I take it when I have a slot left for a Doctorine, but enhancing our troops with +1 leadership and initiative is very worth while, as long as you aren't fighting a Whirlwind or a lot of template weapons.
"A love for tradition has never weakened a nation, indeed it has strengthened nations in their hour of peril."
Sir Winston Churchil
I always take it when I have a doctrine slot left, usually I only use it when I am about to charge though, I mean atleast i gives my guys some chance against marines and some 'nids when I get to go at I4.
It's cheap as free!
It does make you a template target, but then again, there's nothing saying you have to be in formation.
I usually don't vary my list much between opponents (I like the all-comers approach), and my main army uses COD. When it's handy, it's handy, when it's a liability, I don't use it.
Dont worry too much about template weapons with close order drill, just form your guys into one long line. I'm considering doing a trenchwar themed army, with little fortified movement trays of troops, all lined up.
Originally Posted by Gorbass
Close Order Drill fits perfectly for an army like that. You should try that. It's a great idea.
Anyway I always take Close Order Drill whenever I can. You may get bunched up but damn, the benefits out weigh the risk.
"To each his own"
Aye. Remember, it's better charging yourself than letting the enemy charge you. Deny him those extra attacks and add some of your own my stiking simulateously... the extra distance between the first CC fight and your fireline is good to have aswell.Originally Posted by BoxANT
Originally Posted by Kaiser
yes, good point. this is why your front line squads should be rather inexpensive and have a good assault weapon (perhaps a HB/flamer) combo (or even better a Remnant w/ flamer). and the 2nd row should bring your ML/PG (or LC/PG). when the enemy gets close to the 1st row (ie 12" away). the closest squad should charge forword flaming while the other squads blast it. this (as Kaiser said) gives valuable distance to other squads and denys them the charge bonus. in addition it also ties them up for hopefully a long time (make sure you loose in *their turn*).