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Basically, do you guys use em?
They seem like they could be combat monsters, be it expensive ones.
And they would also be able to use their psy hoods to interrupt opponents psy powers.
But for their points and what they come equiped/abilites with chaplains are so nice its hard NOT to field them.
And well, commanders are just the most versatile thing in the world.
So, does anyone actually use librarians?
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I sure do chaplains are so boring and seeing them on lists so often is blah
Ok im glad to hear it and id still like to hear from others, but I have another question, how do you guys equip your librarians in smaller battles? 750-1000 points.
And what psy powers do you give them for what specific use?
Do you give them a command squad in 750-1k points? Whats int he command squad?
Thanks everyone, im actually thinking about making my own sm army using the trait lists and im trying to figure out what I need to buy to get a small army going. And im really looking foward to librarians.
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i find that they work well withvortex of doom replacing their primary power and might of heroes or fota, only because they're cheap and effective
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I use a Librarian in my Blood Angels, and I give him an Honor Guard as well! (Which I have never seen another one of.) I think it is a nice complement to the close combat ability of the army.
You are right, though. While the Chaplain is extremely important to the Chapter, they are basically the only Marine HQ anyone takes anymore.
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When I played space marines (I've turned traitor) I usually only used a librarian when playing against Eldar. The psychic hood is a big help against them. If the opponent isn't using any psykers librarians have their uses but I'd rather take a chaplain.
I'd always go with an Epistolary, the extra leadership is really important for the psychic hood and psychic tests.
Powers really vary on what army you're facing, but only take one of each type, as in don't take two shooting powers or two close combat powers, one of them will always be wasted. You don't have to give him a second power if one is enough for you.
As for equipping them you should decide their role first, are they going to get in combat or use their powers and only get into combat if needed? With that in mind it will help you choose your powers, if he's going to see combat give him a familiar.
I like to protect my characters so I always give them an invunerable save, either the iron halo or terminator armour, it's a personal preference really. If you don't go for the termie armor and he's going for combat give him termie honours for the extra attack and bolt pistol. Otherwise it's really up to you.
I only give him a command squad if I want to infiltrate him, ran out of troop choices, or he's with terminators. Otherwise I just put him in or behind some kind of squad. Assault librarians should probably get a bike or jump pack though.
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I always take one. Personally I love the psychic power fury of the ancients. It is only 9 points and does D3 wounds to whatever unit is in its path and causes pinning. It works really well against lightly armored troops. I always take it unless I am fighting a low initiave army in which case I take vortex of doom(onetime I sucked a necron lord right into the warp )
The librarian's force weapon can be very useful also.
A librarian with terminators command squad is probably the best optoin, both for the terminators and the librarian, as both are suited well to short range fire fights, and assault when nessisary. The librarains should probably be left out of games under 1500, unless your against very moral breakable oponents. Even they, they are far to much of your force.
That said, fear of the darkness can be used to devistateing effect agains shooty armies, on combos with drop pods, as if the squad breaks, it will be forced off the board, due to you being withen 6" of it, so long as you drop behind enemy lines. Librarains are the best shotty HQ choice as well.
I like librarians alot because they maybe more expensive but look at what they start with. A psyhic hood and a force weopon thats not bad plus a power! And there cool cause i play Blood Ravens!!!
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