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ok check out this squad
Chaos Lord - 140
2 x Chosen Termies - 97
2 x PF
1 x Chosen Termie Champ - 64
2 x Lightning Claws
basically my lord has the followin(the slashes are for charging or not)
WS||||S||||T|||| W|||I|||||A ||||||Sv
[Edit by Chaosbrynn: Please try and follow the forum rules. Do not post stats.]
My PF termies have T 5 instead of the regular T4 due to MON
My Champ has +1 str and base 3 attacks not including the lightning claws. so on a charge i get 5 str. 6 re rollable to wound attacks.
So what im asking is if i put this squad up agaisnt your guys finest CC squad would i get eaten alive or fair well? and if you will can you give me an example of your squad in relation to mine.
Last edited by Chaosbrynn; December 19th, 2005 at 15:46.
Not sure what MON is. or exactly what you mean by those slashes Wllllll etc
but just by looking at it, in terms of close combat i would say they would fair pretty well against anything, even SM's. they Would probably defeat standard SM units like tactical squads, and would probably be an even match for a SM terminator squad or command squad equipped for CC. i think against units like that (ones fairly evenly matched against yours) it would just come down to luck of the dice roll.
But that is provided that they get there (to CC) in tact, you cant forget about how a unit is going to move etc, your unit wont arrive in that condition you listed if you walk it up the centre against a hail of lascannon fire (for example)
Aren't us Dark angels nice? giving advice to our fallen brothers (& sworn enemies) of choas?
lol very nice of you
sorry MON means mark of nurgle which gives me +1 T and True Grit
the |||W||| etc.. is the lords stats
MON= mark of nurgle i thnk...?
man id change some of your stuff showing your lords stats im not sure if your allowed to do tht... u might wnt to post this in the chaos sspace marine forum not the spacemarine... im sure some people will b gald but u mite get some more chaos experineced players there... to your squad... do u thnk u realli need furious charge on your lord its quite a points sink. and dont u need at least 4 chosen to form a retinun? if i were playing this unit id shoot it to bits with plasma its a realli big target and due to the small numbers oculd b wiped out very easily but if it got into a marine squad it would rip them to bits... unlees u were going up against some upper command/veteran/assault squad. i would try and make all your guys a bit cheaper and put more in... more survivability...
chaos scum! :tongue:
yeah im probally going to have them 7 strong if i do field them
Look out for the artilery fire! I'd shoot that squad up with my vindicater and concentrate bolter fire on it! You'd never get clos to me! Your gonna need some supporting units to get it into cc against a shooty sm force.:yes:
yea i agree ud have to protect them very well forr them to have a chance to survive if u had some more firepower u might wnt to deepstrike thm but i could b nasty a few plasma weapons and bolters could wipe out the entire unit in 1 turn... ive seen nasty nurgle squads possesed led by a lord with manreaper in a rhino realli nasty u might wont to thnk about tht or some cheaper options.... just a suggestion. termies are good but the are a big big points sink espicailly if uu kit thm out with possesed all u need is talons andthey r combat monsters.
You may want to consider some Reaper Autocannon, if the squad is footslogging then it helps out on the advance. If you deep strike you can go for rear/side armour with them.
If you give hem tank hunters they work out as having 4 TL ML shots a turn.
If you go up against LClaw armed loyalists it will come down to charge. Against Powerfists, your LC's will do alot of dammage, but any survivors will hit you quite easily.
I wouldnt like to send in an Assault Squad, unless it was chaplain led and gave you 4 Plasma Pistol shots before charging. With a little flair it could be done though.
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people will tell you how easily THEY could beat you...but the simple fact is that squad would be an absoloute beast in close combat
it isn't invincible, as shooting will take it's toll, but in close combat it would be very very hard to take down...that squad could easily rip through 2 or 3 full tactical squads (at the same time)...
an equivalent squad for me would be a librarian in termy armour with a terminator command squad. The librarian could potentially kill your lord in one shot, and due to powerfists your toughness 5 would make no difference...the libraran could also potentially have more attacks, but this is due to his psychic powers (if your going to go toe to toe with a librarian, bring a collar of khorne)
good command squad, and very useful to hold a section of the battlefield as long as you can keep them out of harms way in the shooting phase
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The squad has is very slow though and will be heavily targetted by heavy weapons and low ap weps.And your opponent will have alot of chances to take them down. And avoid them. U will need some support squad for surem,maybe some units of possed or something.