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I have read both of Ben Counter's Books and he mentions a GK Chaplain, my question is shouldn't they have one. I think that they should!
What would they look like (color) and what would their stats be. I would really like to see what they would be like.
Well that's my opinion at least.
Any comments would be welcome.:yes:
Fluff-wise the Grey Knights don't need Chaplains; they're basically a Chapter full of Chaplains, their faith is immense and unshakeable without the need for anyone riding them about it.
Game-wise check the stats for a Master of Sanctuary and those for the GK Grand Master. They're pretty much identical if you factor in Termie armour on the normal Chaplain.
Im afraid Heathens right, each GK is, in faith, the equivalent of a Chaplain. Game wise it would be nice if we had a chaplain type figure with abilities similar to reg SM Chaplains.
The only honorable options left to we combatants is seppuku or semantics...which amount to the same thing really.
In the book Grey Knight it says that the Chappy's color as the same as the other GK but one arm is black, but not sure which arm.
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Generally, i wouldn't take the fluff from "Grey Knights" very much to heart. I loved the book, but it is very innaccurate on these types of things. Grey Knights don't function like other chapters, They work on a squad by squad basis, so company chaplains are rather unneccessary since grey knights already preform those duties, and unrealistic because then every squad would have its own chaplain.
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We have. He's called a Grand Master and he's actually a lot better than a ChaplainOriginally Posted by Undead Bonzi
Also, there's nothing to stop you painting a Justicar's arm black and writing "Chaplain" on his nameplate; he wouldn't be a proper Chaplain since GKs don't need or have them, but it's the thought that counts
While we're on the subject of Chaplains and Ben Counter and such, one of the things that has struck me, is can a GK's Nemesis weapon be a Hammer.
I know that the Codex and other people at the local GW have said that the Nemesis weapon can be in any shape or form, but would this mean that a regular GK can have a hammer and would it just be a force weapon or would it also count as a Thunder hammer if you paid the extra points.
Essentially what I am asking is would it be legal in terms of the game if I converted a GK so as to hold a Hammer, and if I paid the cost could it be a Nemesis Force Hammer with the same effects as a Thunder Hammer and Force Weapon?
No, for two reasons. First, you can't just combine weapons to make whatever you want. Second, GK don't have the ability to just buy weaponry. Thats like asking if you can combine a lascannon and an assault cannon, as long as you pay the points for each of them seperately.Originally Posted by High-wolf Leader
And a regular GK's weapon isn't a force weapon at all.
Technically you can represent a GK's NFW however you like - hammers, spears, swords, whatever. But it still counts as JUST a NFW.
actually Megalo, a GK's weapon IS a force weapon, but their ability to use it is lesser than the abilities of a brother-captain or grand-master. It is not a true "force weapon" as they are typically bought from the armories of several imperial codexes, but for all intents and purposes they use the weilder's psychic powers to enhance his combat lethality--which is the basic defenition of a "force weapon."
@HighWolfLeader: you can model a force weapon to be any shape and size that you wish, but it will never be more than a force weapon. In order to avoid confusion, you may want to restrict your "hammers" to being only on models that actually DO have thunder hammers; either that or go for consistency and model an entire squad or your whole army with nemesis force "hammers." You would still need to differentiate Nemesis Force Weapons (hammers) from Thunder hammers, however, or you will get docked for wysiwyg at a tournament.
Last edited by Colonel_Ellios; April 12th, 2006 at 15:11.