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I've managed to convnce my friend into buying his own 40k army instead of just playing with mine, and hes decided to go with the Imperial Guard. I priced him out a small starter army, and I was wondering if this was a decent beginners army;
20 Cadian Shock Troops
3 Cadian Heavy Weapon teams (heavy bolters)
1 Leman Russ Tank
1 Cadian HQ
He will most likely be batteling my Tau army most of the time (which has no way of damaging the front armour of a Leman Russ right now).
ok bare minimum he needs 2 troop choices and 1 HQ, a troop choice must be at least 2 full squads and a HQ squad, (25 guard), the second can be an armoured fist squad, a conscript squad or a repeat of the first (which is what I would recomend), I would suggest autocannons be the Heavy weaopon of choice as they pose the biggest thread to Tau, so he needs:
HQ: officer, auto cannon team, plus 2 others (take your pick from standard bearer, medic and special weapons - be tempted with plasma)
2x 25 man platoons, each platoon to include 1x officer, 3x2man auto cannon teams, 3x special weapons trooper (plasma or GL), 15 troopers
Add to that a Russ with heavy bolter sponsons and probabyl a Basilisk and you are getting there
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I think Guard are tough "beginner army" LOTS of models to paint and more options/strategy than many armies. Also very expensive, cashwise.
If you had to talk him into buying an army, if might be tough to get him to actually finish a Guard army.
As for the initial selection you have there, the Cadian Battleforce is a great deal since there is essentially no waste. Two boxes of the battleforce and an HQ are a good start for 1000 points.
I haven't played Tau, but if I was trying to beat them, I'd want Bassies, not Russes, methinks. Your railgun will make short work of his russes and then you can just kill the rest at range, leading to frustration that "his army stinks"
*I apologize if I'm not being clear on my thoughts here, my back is killing me today, not thinking well. I'm just throwing thoughts out there because it is a careful business, drawing one's friend's into an addiction such as this
RecklessFable's Journey to Mediocrity (Painting an IG army)
I've been addicted to World of Tanks lately and neglecting my IG... But it is so... much... fun!
I warned him about that, but he has a lot of time on his hands, and I think hes pretty good at painting, so he shouldn't have much problem there.Originally Posted by RecklessFableI don't have any railguns yet, and its gonna be a while till I have any money to buy a hammerhead. Also, I specialize in Kroot, which are bascially the same as a gaurdsman, so I think a tank covered in guns is better than an artillery type weapon. Plus, the table we play on is a little smaller than a standard 4x4 so having an expensive artillery would be bad, because it would probably be taken down pretty quick.Originally Posted by RecklessFable
depending on his money situation.
i would go 2x battle force boxes.
that will give him 40 guys, 6 heavy weapons and 2 LRBT. buy a command blister or box and then your laughing.
Just to clear things up, he is willing to spend enough money to buy the Cadian Battleforce and a HQ squad (plus the codex of course).
However, if there is a much better army available by buying thing individally for about the same amount of money ($180 Canadian with taxes, i think thats about $160 US or about 90 pounds). This is just his little beginner force to just to get started in th 40k universe, and I'm sure hes gonna get more over time. I do like Cheredanine's idea, but I would need to price things out first.
hey if you live in canada ORDER online @ www.gc-minis.com they give 30% off which is huge! ive ordered over 2000.00 worth of stuff from them.
Last edited by hardcastle; April 13th, 2006 at 04:15.
Wow, that is cheap. Thanks for the link!
how much is he willing to spend? What scale game are you guys talking about?Originally Posted by Jakester
Of course, you gotta buy the codex, and tell him to read it cover to cover at least twice. But after that, I would start him off proxying stuff. That way he gets to know EXACTLY what he likes, what works, what doesn't work, etc. The guard have a dizzying amount of options (both of troop types and doctrines, the latter confused the crap out of me for some time), and unless you've gotten to try stuff out, he may wind up like me and buying stuff that actually turns out to be never used (I've got a tech priest and a bunch of servitors that I've barely touched, not ot mention a platoon of pug fugly catachans, ugh). If your local GW has a display case army, ask if you're allowed to use that a few times.
Once he's settled into a list, the best place for a new guy to get a whole new army is either to buy everything off of discounted websites (www.hillcity.com or http://www.theworldofhobbies.com/GamingPage.aspx are two of my favorites) or trounce about ebay and amazon. You'll probably find a lot of preassembled and prepainted stuff at used prices on ebay and amazon, so it's pretty win-win.
However, if you wanted to go and buy something now, I suggest a cadian battle force, and then either a 2nd tank of some sort or a platoon box. That probably could get you to 500 points (with a bit of creativity, you could squeeze extra stuff out of the boxes, including some heavy weapons from the tank sprues)
Last edited by Ubernyaw; April 13th, 2006 at 02:01.
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