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Now that I have them in my hands im not sure what I want. I know they are going to Infiltrate. But should I give then a power fist and bp and ccw and wait for my assault marines to support them? Or some bolters and rapid fire my enemies into oblivion.
As this is my first experiance with Scouts I am way over my head. Help is welcomed :yes:
depends on the rest of your army, scouts are probably best used as assault troops, simply because thats about the only thing they do better than marines.
Take life seriously, its lethal.
YOU FOOL! GIVE THEM ALL SHOTGUNS! everyone will give u mad props!Originally Posted by Squeaks
2000pts Orks 4-2-1
Or, they will die from laughter. If this occurs, grab their models, grab your models, and run like heck. Repeat, as possible. Move, when this stops having the desired effect.Originally Posted by gen.nehring
oh cmon, shotties arent that bad and c'mon... THEY'RE SHOTGUNS!
2000pts Orks 4-2-1
That is true, they are indeed shotguns. I don't understand why people give shotguns a hard time. 18 shots before charge, 18 cc attacks, and 4 power weapon attacks. Always welcomed. Especialy against low toughness armies
But still I do like Bolt Pistols & Close Combat Weapons. So yes I know I want these guys to Infiltrate and get up close and personal, and wait for support from my assault marines. But will everyone not exploded if I sprinkle in some shotties? :shifty:
yes, you are starting to think like me! lol, shotguns really are not that bad. remember all those shots hit on a 3+, while in cc with most able cc troops you will be hitting on 4's. so the lower strength of the shotgun isnt as bad as it may seem. Nevertheless i know ppl will still tell you to only give em shotguns when hell freezes over but everyone's armies are too vanilla, and besides, man they're SHOTGUNS!
c'mon, give em shotties, u know u wanna!
2000pts Orks 4-2-1
It's not that shotguns are that bad, it's just that bolt pistols and ccw cost the same amount of points and are simply better. yes, 9 scouts with shotguns wil get 18 shots before 18 cc attacks. but 9 bp & ccw scouts will get 18 shots (at a higher strength) followed by 27 cc attacks. leaving you with absolutely no reason to take shotguns over bolt pistols and close combat weapons.Originally Posted by Squeaks
"You challenge me knowing that I am Xiahou Dun!?"
WHOA...you cannot double fire with pistols and charge! p.29 in the big book. ^_^Originally Posted by Xiahou Dun
So what is better
18 shotgun shots followed by 18 close combat attacks (forget the sergeant)
9 bolt pistol shots followed by 27 close combat attacks (forget the sergeant)
Does anyone feel like cracking some numbers and getting the precentages? :shifty:
What about a scout squad with half shotguns/bp&ccw :w00t:
I mean, I need to see the numbers before I make my informed decision...but common...there SHOTGUNS!:rolleyes:
It reall does come down to the fact of who you are playing...I am so confused on what to do...shotguns are cool...bp&ccw make tactical sense...
Is anyone willing to crunch the numbers to solve this puzzle?
Last edited by Squeaks; April 19th, 2006 at 06:42.
I think CC scouts are better off with pistols and CCW's. However, if you usually take a couple of losses before getting to the enemy, you might as well give those two men shotguns instead of the pistol and CCW they would normally take. At least you will get a couple more shots, even if they are at a lower strength and have no AP.