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would it comply with tournie rules in most cases to use whirlwinds painted in sister colors and with sister symbols as exorcists? i hate the hard-to-find kits (and they're expensive), and the forgeworld kit isn't really all that different from the whirlwind anyway... thanks for your advice.
Sure, there should be no reason why-
1) its painted the correct colours
2) its a GW model
3) there is no set excorcist model (to my knowledge)
Exorcist. I suppose it's like anything else really; as long as it looks like the description in the Codex and there can be no confusion over what it is, I'd allow it. Then again I am extremely permissive with my tolerance of proxying since I don't believe people should have to shell out cash they haven't got just to field a unit they like the look of, you might get a few umms and aahs with a Whirlwind because as you can see they're pretty different to actual Exorcists.
it should be fine as they are very similar and they is no set model for the exosist. just as long as it follows what the outsider has all ready said
A Chaos Rhino with missile Pod ought to work as well.
In fact, you're better off not using the pipe organ, to avoid some yahoo trying to hassle you that your weapon is fixed and therefore should only have a 90 degree firing arc. Most people are capable of accepting the fact that a Missile steers itself (which is why we don't call it a cannon), and therfore accept the 360 degree arc. THat, and add to the fact that the missile tubes point straight up, and therefore the vehicle would technically not be able to hit anything if it were held to the strictest letter of the law:
"... trace the actual line of fire fom the weapon mounting ..."
All in all, it seems to be a case where GW failed to create a model that really satisfies its description. In fact, the weapon (to me) just seems incongruent with the rest of the army. A giant pipe-organ doesn't work for me, nor does anything else I've seen.
I mean really now. Who in the heck would feel good about getting killed by a giant pipe organ. That's lke getting stomped on my the Sta-Puff Marshmallow man.
MY VISION OF THE EXORCIST:
Start with the Jaeger Panzer IV Hull of WWII (link below) including the Wheel-Skirts.
I have a vision of a turret-less, buttoned down, tank-destroyer with a hull similar in shape to the Jaeger Panzer of WWII except that instead of tracks, it would have wheels that were steel rims with spikes and a kinda medieval look to it.
Yeah. That's it.
A turretless, tank destroyer with maybe long twin barrels that are similar shape as the barrels of a giant shotgun, mounted with a complicated, rusty, steeley, traversing mechanism with a very primitive industrial look to it-- a traversing mechanism that looks like it could have been made from spare parts of a torture rack, mounted on a lower hull very similar the JdPkz IV, and the spikey/orkish wheels as described above.
Kinda like a Tank Destriyer Hull with an ugle Basilisk-gun and travesing mechanism (insteadof an actual turret), and spikey Ork wheels.
Something that clearly does not look like a tank, but the handicapped, rusty, closet-kept distant ancestor of the JdPkz Tank-Destroyer before there were treads, and before they thought to put plating over the traverse. Something that says all of the following:
"We can't have a nice tank, and now you won't either".
"Nice... but... where the hell do you turn it on?"
"No,it doesn't actually shoot anything,but that usually isn't necessary once the enemy sees it"
"No, our engineers are not as good as WWII Germany's but we try harder".
I agree that the Exorcist model is hard to come by and quite up there on the expense bracket, but how it is not a "set model"? It is sold on six of the Games Workshop sites (CA, UK, FR, GR, SP, IT) - how can it not be a set model? I'm confused... please tell me where I have this wrong.
Originally Posted by Montford981
well, perhaps i was mistaken. i was under the impression that the exorcist model on the uk website was out of production and that it was not available (why else would it sell at a premium - above the listed price - on ebay?); the us 2005-2006 catalog says it is available via special offer only. i guess i equated limited availability with not being a standard model. checking the site i see that it's there, so i guess this is a mea culpa.
See, I would agree with that train of thought. If the only model available is from a limited run, I would assume that a converted Whirlwind would be permissible for tournaments. Otherwise, when it is no longer available, anyone new to the army wouldn't be able to field that choice in a tournament game. I guess it depends on the Tourney organizer.Originally Posted by drfaustus
Last edited by SentryKiller; April 18th, 2006 at 21:50.
Originally Posted by Montford981
If our game allows for custom-made (customised with GW parts) or conversion models, why a converted Exorcist would be any different?
well i just checked the u.s. online store and.....
i found that all of the excorcist parts still excists, it's just that they are no longer in a box set. to get it, you need to buy a rhino and all of the excorsist accessory bits.
just trying to keep everyone informed.