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    skimma LOS

    Are skimmers considered to be just as high as their base is or are they assumed to be able to fly higher? Obviously this comes up with flying over shiz, which I tend to allow, but a guy I play against frequently (who runs tau, but I figure it's the same for all skimmers) often says that his piranhas can see my troops (when I'm intentionally trying to hide them behind something) by saying that he can just fly higher...

    Intuitively, it makes sense that something that can deep strike could fly high enough to shoot down on my folks...but then I also feel like that's a little ridiculous, so here I am.


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    Yeah, you are right. It is ridiculous. He must have line of sight with his skimmers just as any other vehicle.

    The vehicle is as high as it is on its base, simple enough. They can fly over things (like forests), but not stay above them.

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    Actually, I thought you could state that your vehicle is 'above' terrain rather than in it. It means that anything on the board can see and shoot at you, but it would give you better line of sight. I am far from my BGB right now, but I am sure it is in there. You can't pull that trick in the open though.

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    Skimmers i believe count as size 3.

    Skimmers are indeed allowed to 'hover' above area terain allowing them to shoot over it. But seeing as they are hovering above it then they can also be shot at by your opponent.
    So it makes it fair for both sides.

    Some people will disagree with me on this one, but this IS true, no two ways about it.

    So if you had your troops behind some terain, and your opponent 'hovers' above the terain then yes he can shoot at your guys.

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    Blast it!

    Yes, well thats what happends when I try to answer from the top of my head. Skimmers can absolutely hover above terrain and they are not obscured by the same terrain if doing so. This is very clearly stated in the BGB. page 61.

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    The thing that sucks about being size 3 is that everything can shoot at it even if it's ducked behind some woods. Grr...

    They are feast or famine. Either they will tear up the board gunning everything down, or your opponent will smash them to bits without expending a whole lot of effort. AV 10 just isn't very tough.

    And go figure the new Tau skimmer is AV11 and therefore immune to bolters. I hate Tau.
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    only on the front and as pirahna's are generally small ya should have no problem diggin thebolter into his ribs also piranas weaponry isn't that great against marines anyway
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