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I've come into a little dilemma with my Battleforce set: It contains parts to make a Rhino OR Razorback (The set says Razorback, but without the turret, its just a Rhino).
I've decided to build it, so heres my question: Should I make a Razorback or a Rhino?
I know they both have their Pros/Cons.
Rhino can Carry 10 Men, Razorback can only carry 6(I think).
Rhino weapons suck, Razorback has Lascannon. You get the picture.
So what should I make? In case your wondering, I have Black Templars, so assault is my objective in most games. A Rhino would help getting my boyz there. BUT, I also lack anti-armour, so a Razorback could help there.
Have you thought about doing both? I've not built a rhino/razorback yet, but its my next project to see if I can make one convertable. I was looking at the spru's the other day and it looks like the only difference is the rectangular piece that the razorback turret sits in (correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe take a bit of spru and run it along the inside of the tank and magnetize them so that you can swap the rectangles?
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Yes you can make it so that you can switch and yes it is a fairly simple conversion.
However here is the problem with one razorback it is a rhino but with a gun so most opponents will shoot it first and make sure you dont get much out of the lascannon. The razorback is also just as unsurviveable as a rhino so;
If you plan on having more than one go with the razorback but if not go with the rhino. I recomend the rhino overthe razorback. You dont want to pay 40 points to put a twinlinked lascannon on a cardboard box.
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Go for the rhino it has a larger carrying capacity and is cheaper. Both have the same armor value and die the same. Add smoke launchers. 1st turn move 12 inches forward, pop smoke. second turn move 6 inches and disembark. 3rd turn if it survives this long use it to block enemy line of sight, a piece of moveable cover per say. A Razorback is really a waste you might get one or two shots of before its destroyed if your lucky.
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I'd say that it really depends on what you plan on using the transport for. If you're going to use it to transport a unit towards the enemy and drop off your troops to fight, the Rhino is a better choice, as it can carry more men and is less of a target due to its lack of heavy weapon.
However, a Razroback will find itself more useful for dropping troops off at objectives and then moving away, firing its weapons at whatever presents itself. Giving a Razorback a lascannon is risky, as that makes it a huge target. I find that your basic twin linked heavy bolter is still quite handy, as you can use it to cause serious damage to units such as Gaunts or Ork boyz (ok, maybe not serious, but bad enough that they'll dislike having to deal with it), or pepper units of tougher troops.
I like the razorback. Remember it's armor is far from impervious, so employ it with forethought. Hide it during initial placement, try to limit it's exposure. You can move 12" and pop smoke, but then you can't shoot. Not shooting is a waste of points and you should've taken the cheaper rhino.Originally Posted by Firedrake28
It can make a great shooting platform, stick it next to a 5 or 6 man squad with a lascannon totin' marine, and you have 2 lascannon shots per round, and one is twin linked.
Any time you only field one vehicle, you are begging it to get popped early. But stick a dread and some termies on the field and no one will think twice about a razor back with a heavy bolter.
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I think you should make the Rhino, As black templars you should be making CC squads and CC squads need to be big, Next is that as far as anti armor goes it isn't that good, and for a few more points you could upgrade it to a Drednought, which has better weapons (same plus DCCW, or assault cannon, possibly a missle launcher), can move through cover,and can fightback in CC. The Rhino is much more suitable for an assaulty army like the Templars.
Make sure you don't glue the top hatch doors onto the rhino. The turret plate will sit on top quite happily, and just blutac will do for the doors. Try out both options with your army. Mine is rarely used as a Razor, but the option is there... Same with my Whirlwind.
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Just dont glue the top hatch down, ive done that with my whirlwind and my razor and it works fine, one game im mech with 3 rhinos the next im shooty with a whirl and a razor. Once painted they fit snugly together.
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If you plan on transporting any number of troops (even 5 or 6) the rhino is a better option. Rhino's have 2 firing points so that means you can shoot a heavy bolter and plasma gun on your transported squad out. This comes to more firepower than a razorback as you also have a storm bolter. It is slightly more resilient due to self-repair and is still considerably cheaper.
Overall razorbacks are only half-decent when empty and even then I would choose a rhino.
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