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    GKT: BC as elite rather than HQ

    Well, I finally appreciated the power of termis in Hth this week end, and after reading "BC or gM" threds,it occured to me that :

    A BC (+ termies) in elite cannot be single out in Hth, as when he is HQ.

    as he is not a independent character.
    this was checked with GW today.

    what do you think ?

    I take it as an advantage, as he will then be the last standing men, with the max number of attacks.


    (Well , I still need an HQ, but then I can imagine a single BC with psycannon, that nobody can shoot at, ( unless he is front line), walking AND shooting at 36 !) (rather than an Hq Lord)
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    Quote Originally Posted by petitaime
    Well, I finally appreciated the power of termis in Hth this week end, and
    what do you think ?
    As you realised there are benefits in 4:ed with termis as elite if you got the mandatory hq solved. Beside the psycannon you should try out give your Elit-chooise BC an Chainfist or a Daemonhammer (instead of Stormbolter).

    That way he has an extra attack (equal to GM) and he cant be targeted.
    Take:
    Chainfist if you meet dredds and vehicles on regular basis.
    Daemonhammer if you up to daemons (and vehicles/dredds).

    .. but on the other hand you will get another 2 attacks and another wound if you just add another termi for mere 16 pts extra...

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    Sure this is an advantage, but the fact remains that no one like a lonely and velnerable HQ, it is better to give the HQ a retinue, but it depends on what you want, some people give a retinue of termies to the HQ and squeeze in an elites section so that the BC can do what you said. Yes, you are right, it is an advantage, BUT, oh and what a BUT, you MUST have an HQ, and the only one you can get to get dreads, LRC etc is the GM or BC, so it really depends!
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    Like mustardnight notes, if you want a dreadnought or land raider or land raider crusader, you are going to have to get a GK hero -- an independent character -- and all that implies. And if you're getting a GK hero, it really behooves you to get a retinue for him. And since you're doing that, there's no reason to spend any more points on yet another squad of GK termies. Your points would be better spend elsewhere.

    It's a rare DH army list that uses an inquisitor lord as an HQ, also uses GKs, and doesn't take a dreadnought or land raider tank....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mustardknight
    Sure this is an advantage, but the fact remains that no one like a lonely and velnerable HQ, it is better to give the HQ a retinue,

    well, in the previous , I took an HQ, baecause I had to ..
    but walking him alone ( no retinue), makes him un-targetable, unless I put him the closest from my opponent, right ?
    so I can walk a BC with psy (36) foloowing my fist line, supporting, and risking no fire ?

    Am I wrong ?
    if I add a retinue, it makes him a targetable character , right ?

    so i reformulate the idea :

    * my assault squad is an ELITE GTK (with non IC BC) .
    * and my HQ is an IC BC with psy, supporting with fire, second line.
    Last edited by petitaime; May 22nd, 2006 at 18:14.

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    Your logic is sound. The main problem is that it would cost you 61 extra points to do what you're talking about. I don't want to spend 61 extra points just to avoid risking the problems associated with having an independent character in a retinue. I can get 2.5 GKs with that!
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