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hey guys i am in a dilemma for my friends birthday i have promised to help him buy things to make an ig army he is new and doesnt have a codex and i know nothing of ig either . can you guys tell me what things he should get (minus the codex my present)for a good cadian army. the price limit is 250$. all help and replies will be appreciated.
Well the codex is a great start...But you've got that covered
Maybe a battle force? It has 20 infantry, 3 heavy weapons a Leman russ and some terrain too! You can easily make a platoon with the infantry and heavy weapon squads(A few conversion here and there and you got a command squad and 2 infantry squads). After that it's up to how he wants to build his army.
Maybe some paint and glue to go along with the battle force? A few brushes and a modeling knife and your getting close to yor budget.
Happy B-day to him!
I'd get a command squad of sorts, 2 platoons and the battle force. I'd also get a few leutinants, and an extra squad for retinue. Sorry mate, IG is a pain in the ass.
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frist of all, you are a good friend. It really depends on how your friend plays.
A battleforce is a must, you save money.
One thing you will need is another box of infantry. might want to go with 2.
Storm troopers(aka Kasirkins) might be a good idea, there a cool unit and noone ever complains about Storm troopers. there worth the point cost and cadian legal.
Hellhounds i think is a cool tank, but people often complain there not "effective", play it safe, get the other tanks.
Sentials is another cool looking unit that is effective and an flexible unit that will match how your friend plays
Lemon Russ is a must have, either that or a demolisher. How many depends on how you think will play.
Basilsks....wow, this artillary tanks is the single most powerfull artillery you can get. get 2 and that army will have unbeilable bombardment.
For a review
Demolisher-maybe-----many poeple fued over which of those heavy tanks are best, and how many. your choice, but heavy support is defentally a Great idea
Hellhound-not an essiental, dont buy
armored fist box set-mmm, your call, either you like it or you dont.
your a really good friend, you know that
To echo the comments
Grunts and lots of them are the best bet.
HOWEVER AND I DO MEAN HOWEVER, make sure your buddy likes to paint or is at least interested in painting becuase IG means ALOT OF PAINTING, ALOT OF PAINTING. I can't stress this enough don't get someone hooked into IG who doesn't want to paint a lot of figs. IG is fun and its a rewarding army to paint and model but its also probally the hardest other than orks to get to look picture perfect. So be sure to know your friends threshold for all of that because its one thing to have an army thats small and so-so painted but its another to have 100-150 models that are basically 3 colors because that can make one lose heart in the quality of your gamesmanship and the army as a whole.
Lieutenants, Storm Troopers and the such are hardly necessities. The battle force (with 20 guardsmen, 3 heavy weapon teams, and a Leman Russ) is a great start. Augment that with an additional box of Cadians and a Chimera, and you've got 40 guardsmen, plenty of heavy weapons, and two tank. With that you can make your HQ Command Squad, a platoon Command Squad, two Infantry Squads, and an Armored Fist squad. That's one HQ choice and two Troops, the minimum force organization required for any list. To boot you've got your heavy weapons troopers and a Leman Russ. When you're making the heavy weapons, my recommendation is buy a couple of extra large bases. Stick only one crouching figure onto each base. Model the loaded as an ordinary guardsmen (perhaps with a bit of ammo around him) on a regular circular base. That way you have enough crouching figures to make 6 heavy weapons teams. You can also get a bit creative and have standing guardsmen carrying heavy weapons, or propping them up on modelled rubble or the such (if that's the path you choose, I'd recommend giving the autocannons and lascannons to crouching figures with tripods, with a little modification you can stick a heavy bolter on a bipod, and missile launchers can be used standing up or slung over a model's back).
Boxed force, Cadian infantry box and Chimera should run you somewhere between 150 and 200 bucks if my recollection isn't too hazy. That'll give you enough to create 5-600 points worth of models and give you a good core for your army. When you look to expand, augment with more infantry, tanks, whatever else strikes your fancy.
Good luck with the Guard.
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Your all forgeting something here. Sure you need alot of IG to make an army, but having that many models in front of you all at once is VERY VERY daunting. I say space it out, the Battle set is a great start, and doesn't have enough minis to swamp him right away.
Get him a How To Paint book too, it'll give him some tips and tricks, or at the very least inspire his color scheme. Maybe even a 40K novel about IG, Like Gaunts Ghost's. This'll get him intersted in the hobby on a deeper level, and he'll maybe pursue writing his own fluff to match his doctrines.
My 1750 p army (don't have to aim so far) consists of 2 battleforces, 1 trooper box, one box that had 10 guys and a chimaera and another chimaera. (260€ = 250$)
[ I actually paid less, about 220$ as the store owner agreed in giving me percentage)
though i converted alot.
tell you friend, if he needs alot of heavy weapons, there are tons of spare ones in the heavy weapon squad box (or the battleforce) and if he wants hellhounds, convert a chimaere (saves you 10$)
and i didn't buy special weapon troopers or officers, i converted them too.
a flamer can nicely become a melta and an old bolter and plasmapistol (ask someone who plays SMs) make a good plasmagun.
Last edited by Microcosm; May 24th, 2006 at 13:30.