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now don't get me wrong i know the rules, there is no way you can take assault marines in a Ravenwing army, but do you think it would fit in with the theme if they could? i mean fluff wise the ravenwing are supposed to range ahead and scout around.
The ravenwing are basically a fast attack army, so what i'm saying is why don't they have assault marines?
Not really. Assault marines aren't scouts. Now they are fast but thats not the same as being scouty. In terms of fiction, jump packs are fairly hard to use, which is why people like IG don't have them. You essentially rocket into the air in a big leap, land, and do it again. Most scouts want to be able to cruise, and jump packs don't. Now in terms of speed, yes the fit in, but they don't fit the overall theme of the army.
Ravenwing aren't allowed Assault marines?
Are you entirely sure about that?
Nothing I can think of would prevent the use of assault marines by Ravenwing and I would actually find that to be diammetrically opposed to the background.
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i understand that jump packs aren't too scouty, but neither is a land speeder or a bike roaring across the battlefield.
For scouting missions wouldnt it be wise to use scouts? I think that the ravenwing would make speedy attacks more often than thwy will go scouting. I cant find any reason why assult marines shouldnt be used with the ravenwing in the Dark Angels codex
Ravenwing is all about ranging ahead, hit and run attacks, etc.
Landspeeders and bikes can range kilometres around, while assault marines are much shorter ranged than that. If you think about it, it makes sense.
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The Ravenwing Company is entirely mounted on bikes and landspeeders. This allows them to perform hit-and-run attacks and long ranged recon missions. Scouts are better but they are not as skilled at driving the bikes as those who only get off them to go to get something repaired.
Assault Marines vary on both accounts, they are designed to strike fast but then they don't leave. They stick in the fight until someone is wiped out. As stated above their range is also limited. A bike is still faster than a marine doing bounding leaps. They also would be seen if they were to jump into the area they are supposed to recon.
The only way you can have Ravenwing and Assault Squads together is to play a standard DABF army and have two Scout Squads for the troops choices. In a solid Ravenwing Army, they must all be mounted on a bike or speeder.
If I remember correctly, Ravenwing can have Scout Bikers though.Originally Posted by Grand Master Belial
Edit: Correction, just dusted off the old DA codex. No they can't :/
Last edited by Ravendove; August 15th, 2006 at 21:22.
Ravenwing,cannot have scout bikers,look in the dark angels codex they dont list them,if they dont list scouts therefore cannot have them.The reason I know,because I am a ravenwing player,and mainly a bike player,but have started on my land speeder army which is doing quite well in fact.
Assault marines in ravenwing wont mix,it would be kool if they did.Ravenwing are known for bikers,and speeders not assult marines.White scars are known for that,but idk much on white scares rules these days,maybe gw got rid of them to give a boost to ravenwing abilites.
I think a drop poding Ravenwing army would be interesting to play. All drops in, all is fast. scary. But that initial round droping in would be bad, not being able to move.
Maybe the DA codex will add a rule for Ravenwing bikes.